Thanks, Pankaj ji On 9 Feb 2017 6:48 a.m., "Pankaj Kumar" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Sir > I have already seen this article before and it is not surprising that the > plant in Saphoo et al (2016) is wrongly identified and it is infact > Dactylorhiza hatagirea. Very peculiar labellum. > I have not seen the Dactylorhiza umbrosa myself but if it is in Pakistan > (Chitral) till Iraq, then obviously not a big deal if it can be found in > India, but so far I have not seen the live plants myself. At one point I > also thought that umbrosa and hatagirea should be same as hatagirea is very > widespread and even found at broad elevation range. But as I never had > specimen I was unable to conclude. > Orchids of Russia - Vakhrameeva et al. (2008) didnt include Pakistan as > the distribution range for this, but Orchids of Northwest Himalaya - Deva > and Naithani (1986) included. > I have not see your pics but would love to have a look. > Thanks and regards > Pankaj > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:17 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> >> Date: 7 Feb 2017 12:38 p.m. >> Subject: Dactylorhiza umbrosa was not FIRST found in 2012 near Vishensar >> Lake, Kashmir but by Chris Chadwell's team in Ladakh in 1980! >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> >> I am currently preparing a posting about New Records for Ladakh found >> during the University of Southampton Expedition to Ladakh in 1980 when I >> was team-leading of the botanical project which was a botanical survey of >> the Suru Valley. >> >> We collected a Marsh Orchid: Dactylorhiza umbrosa (Kar. et Kir.) our >> collection number SULE 16 - which was deposited in the herbarium of the >> University of Kashmir. *This was 32 years before 2012... According to >> the article it represents an ADDITION TO THE FLORA OF INDIA....* >> Duplicate specimens went to Kew; triplicate specimens to University of >> Southampton. >> >> See: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304498649_Dactylorh >> iza_umbrosa_Kar_Kir_Nevski_Orchidaceae_an_addition_to_flora_ >> of_India_from_Kashmir_Himalaya >> >> My team collected this at Panichar, 3300m, grassy verge between Chalang >> Nullah and irrigation channel; wet sandy loam in marshy area with >> Trifolium, Euphrasia, grasses. To 35cm, deep mauve with purple markings on >> lower petals; occasionally white forms. >> >> *I noted in the Report of the Expedition that Dactylorhiza umbrosa was >> considered by some authors to be only part of the Dactylorhiza hatagirea >> complex. * >> >> *Stewart in his Annotated Catalogue lists both D.hatagirea and D.umbrosa >> (collected in Chitral) observing it was probably distinct but part of the >> D.hatagirea complex.* >> >> *In my recent postings about Dactylorhiza I had assumed our 1980 >> collection was part of this complex but as D.umbrosa appears to be* >> *an accepted name and the specimens were identified at Kew one presumably >> can trust their determination.* >> >> *Thus, it appears, my team found this orchid for the first time in Indian >> territory back in 1980.* >> >> *I would naturally welcome the thoughts of our orchid specialist.* >> >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Conservation Officer > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > *Residence*: > House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen > Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
