Sir in Flora of Mah.by Dr. Almeida Vol I pg 227: Melia composita Willd. Sp.is
described.
As mentioned in the volume the same was known as M. dubia Hiern in Hook.f., Fl.
Brit. Ind. 1:545,1875(non Cav.,1789); Talbot, Tress Bombay39, 1902; Woodrow in
Journ. Bombay nat. Hist.Soc. 11: 269, 1897.
The common names mentioned are Kadu-Khajur, Kala khajur, Maha-neem.
The description of Melia composita I quote " A tall handsome tree. Young
branches densely clothed with stellate pubescens, ultimately smooth. Leaves bi-
sometimes tri-pinnate, 20-70 cm long; ultimate leaflets 5-11, oposite, 2-8 by
0.6- 4 cm ( the terminal the largest ), from ovate-lanceolate to ovate -rotund,
acute or acuminate, entire or crenulate, thinly stellatelt pubescent on both
surfaces when young, at length glabrous, base acute or rounded, more or less
oblique; main nerves 7- 8 pairs, petioles 3-6 mm long. Flowers greenish
white..... Drupes ovoid or ellipsoid, 2.5 - 4 cm long, smooth, yellowish. seed
1 in each cell, smooth, pointed."
Further in distribution : " Koina nagar (M.R.Almeida-1344, BLAT), Ratnagiri,
Konkan( Graham), Malsiras in Purandhar Taluka (kanitkar), Parghat(Dalzell &
Gibson), Raigad (V.D.Vartak), Saptashringi, Ranling."
I hope the above helps in getting the third tree pics.
regards,
Rashida.
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:03:11 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:31180] Re: Melia azedarach
From: singh...@gmail.com
To: drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
CC: sahanipan...@gmail.com; rohitpatel_...@yahoo.com;
rashidaatt...@hotmail.com; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
This thread is turning out to be interesting. Could the third plant mentioned
by Bharve ji turn out to be M. dubia Cav. (or if we believe useful plants of
India Indian plant M. dubia Hiern. is different from M. dubia Cav. and
correctly M. composita Willd.), a wild tree more useful as timber plant. The
plant can have tripinnate leaves and more importantly flowers are creamish
white like neem. The plant seems to be growing in South West India. Could any
member upload its photographs to complete the series.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Rashida,
My apologies. Missed the bi-pinnate leaves. It is Melia azedarach [Persian
Lilac].
Regards,
Neil.
--- On Wed, 3/31/10, rashida atthar <rashidaatt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: rashida atthar <rashidaatt...@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [efloraofindia:31180] Re: Melia azedarach
To: singh...@gmail.com, sahanipan...@gmail.com, rohitpatel_...@yahoo.com
Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 8:00 PM
Thank you very much Dr. Gurcharan ji. Now I will always remember the
difference.
regards,
Rashida.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:49:38 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:31175] Re: Melia azedarach
From: singh...@gmail.com
To: sahanipan...@gmail.com; rohitpatel_...@yahoo.com; rashidaatt...@hotmail.com
CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
I think many of us are getting confused, although the two plants are so
different
let us for a moment forget about the specific epithet azedarach and and generic
name Azadirachta.
Neem is Azadirachta indica, and it is easily differentiated by Unipinnate (and
not bipinnate leaves) and more important creamish white flowers. It appears
atleast 20 days to 1 month later. It has yet to start flowering in Delhi
atleast.
The plant uploaded here by Rashida ji is Melia azedarach the persian lilac,
bead tree, pride of India, China tree, locally known as Drek or bakain in
Hindi, Mahanim in Manskrit and Bengal, Pejri or padri in Mar., Bakam limbodo in
Guj., Turaka vepa in Tel., Malai vembu in Tam., Thamaga in Assam, Bakaina in
Nepal. It is easily differentiated from neem tree by its bipinnate leaves and
lilac flowers.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Dr. Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I believe Ms. Rashida is right, this is Melia azedarach and not Neem!!
Leaves are tripinnate in Melia azaderach whereas they are bipinnate in
Azadirachta indica.
Regards
Pankaj
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"efloraofindia" group.
To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.
Sena, Shah Rukh and the fight over Mumbai Sign up now.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"efloraofindia" group.
To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.
_________________________________________________________________
The world in moving pictures
http://news.in.msn.com/gallery/archive.aspx
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"efloraofindia" group.
To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.
