Dears,

The debate about assigning red-list categories to some taxa assessed to be 
facing one or the other category of threat on account of excessive/ destructive 
removals from their natural habitats or loss/ degradation of the natural 
habitats is likely to continue forever. Protagonists for both the sides are 
aplenty. In my experience on the subject of over more than twenty years, I 
treat this debate as a typical case of tussle between the taxonomists and the 
conservationists. In many cases, both the parties seem to be far away from the 
ground reality as there usually is a wide time lapse between the time of actual 
field surveys and the time of making the threat assessment. Threat per se is 
sure a matter of perception. One person records a good grove of an otherwise 
uncommon tree species and records it as common. The other person observes the 
same grove and records it as endangered due to paucity of regeneration. The 
major issue is whether the species under consideration is continuing to occupy 
the areas in its natural range of occurrence it was occupying say twenty/ 
thirty years back! If the area under such occupation is reduced over time and/ 
or regeneration seems to be a problem, then there sure is an issue. Red-listing 
only flags such issues and brings such species under management focus.


I concede to Mr. Chadwell's point to the extent that more serious surveys are 
required to assign a threat status to a species. The issue has, however, long 
been settled and personally I agree to it. The reigning principle now is to 
assign a red-list status to a species on the basis of whatever recent knowledge 
about the population status and threats is available. This red-list 
categorisation is then followed by extensive field surveys and PHVA (population 
and habitat viability analysis). The species is again taken up for threat 
evaluation on the basis of field surveys and red-list category could be 
changed/ reversed based on the information. Thus, threat categorisation/ 
red-listing is, thus, a preemptive measure to save the genetic range of a 
species perceived to be under threat.


I cite the typical case of Colchicum luteum from Lahaul valley. The species has 
not been reported from the area in the district floras. However, during one 
threat assessment exercise a local person from Lahaul insisted that the species 
is present in the area and that extent of its occurrence has drastically shrunk 
over the years. I thereafter mounted a survey for the species in Lahaul and 
recorded the occurrence of species at various locations around Kukumseri 
(Udaipur). Now a 3 hectare plot containing about 300 plants of this species has 
been closed as in situ reserve.


Coming specifically to Karu (Picrorhiza kurroa), the species has fairly vast 
range of occurrence and makes dense mats wherever it occurs. The cause of worry 
is the rising commercial demand of the rhizomes of this species that has grown 
to more than 1000 metric tonne (dry weight) now. To meet this demand, the wild 
gatherers have now taken to camping at higher altitudes for months together and 
uproot the entire colonies of this species from a location. I have, during my 
field visits over time, have noticed the Karu colonies vanish at many places. 
It is correct that the leftover rootstock will help the colonies spring back, 
but it will happen only if the the area is left unexploited for 2-3 years. 
Alas, it is not happening! Wild populations of Picrorhiza kurroa have taken a 
good beating over the past about 20 years. At many places the dug up areas have 
been taken over by Phlomis sp., Cirsium sp., Rumex sp., etc. leaving no space 
for re-establishment of Karu.


In as far as the sustainable harvest practices are concerned, India has some 
very old traditions of cyclic sustainable harvest. The most common one linked 
to harvest of underground parts of temperate and alpine herbs is to start such 
harvest only from bees bhadon (twentieth of the Indian month of Bhadon, usually 
corresponding to the first week of September) after paying obeisance to the 
local deity. It was considered that by this time the roots would have 
accumulated the required alkaloids and the seeds would have fallen ensuring 
regeneration. There are also forest-wise management prescriptions in place for 
rotational harvest under which an area opens up for harvesting once in 4 years. 
The question is not about the systems, but it is about the implementation of 
these systems. In a situation where the harvest of medicinal herbs forms one of 
the key opportunities of cash income, it is rather difficult to implement the 
prescriptions. It is sad but true. The issue gets compounded with increasing 
grazing pressure in these areas. With no other means of sustaining livelihoods, 
grazing in these areas is not a matter of choice. It is a compulsion.


Various programs are nevertheless going on to involve the local communities, 
including graziers, in management of wild resources, including Karu, with 
various degrees of success. I am hopeful that these efforts will bear fruit and 
such species would be managed more professionally.


My above discourse is only to create wider appreciation about the issue and not 
to thrust any opinion.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)


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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:41 AM
To: efloraofindia
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Subject: [efloraofindia:264287] Fwd: Picrorhiza kurrooa cultivated in botanical 
garden in Kashmir - plus a method of SUSTAINABLE collection in the wild

Thanks,  Chadwell ji
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From: "C CHADWELL" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 21 Feb 2017 2:12 a.m.
Subject: Picrorhiza kurrooa cultivated in botanical garden in Kashmir - plus a 
method of SUSTAINABLE collection in the wild
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc:

A couple of images of P.kurrooa growing well in the Nehru Botanical Garden, 
Kashmir.

I have seen this growing abundantly in a botanical garden in Norway and there 
are images of
it growing well in another Indian botanical garden on eFI.  All this suggests 
the plant is adaptable
and can readily be cultivated.   Very much a CURIOSITY in ornamental terms, 
rather than outstanding i.e.
would be of NO interest to the vast majority of gardeners in the West and even 
specialist rock gardeners
would only rate it as of moderate interest.

I DISAGREE with the listing of this plant under Appendix of CITES.

Simply because a plant has medicinal uses and is collected does NOT 
automatically mean it is
THREATENED let alone ENDANGERED.

Stewart knew this as a COMMON species on alpine meadows in Kashmir (it was 
collected at that time).

Unless one regularly visits said locations in Kashmir (and also H.P.) and 
MONITORS populations, they
CANNOT judge accurately the status of this species in the wild.  During my 
travels in the Kashmir Valley
and Himachal Pradesh with an understanding of the distribution of this species 
(which exceeds that of
any Indian botanist), I see no reason why this plant is seriously endangered. 
Quite a number of colonies/populations
of this species are in places beyond the reach of Indian botanists AND local 
collectors!

But fundamentally, unless the more accessible meadows are visited, how can 
anyone actually judge?  Abundance
or rarity cannot be determined in an office or even a herbarium.

Furthermore, as this plant is found in colonies close to the Pakistan border 
(as well as well away from
the border), as access has been restricted (incl. a REDUCTION in grazing 
pressure) by patrols of the
Indian Army (I can cite the situation on Mt. Aphawat) this could well have 
INCREASED the size of
such colonies in recent decades.....

Koelz noted from local amchis in Lahaul that this was known as 'Wanglen' in 
Tibetan.  Commenting that
the roots were an old Indian remedy for fever & colds.  At that time (the 
1930s), MANY people, usually Tibetans and
Rampuris made a business of collecting the herb for sale wherever it grew in 
the high mountains (THOUGH
I REPEAT I HAVE SEEN PLENTY OF TERRITORY TOO STEEP FOR NON-ROCK CLIMBERS) with 
their
encampments being seen amongst the peaks in summer months.

More recently one should consider 'Tibetan Medicinal Plants' Kletter & 
Kriechbaum (2001).  According to the authors,
translated from ancient Greek 'picros  rhiza' means bitter root.

Specimens of 'hong len' collected on the Rohtang Pass were both Picrorhiza 
kurrooa AND Lagotis cashmeriana (which it
seems is considered as an adulterant of 'Kukti' (Picrorhiza kurrooa).  Samples 
of 'hong len' collected in Nepal were Neopicrorhiza
scrophularifolia)  whilst another sample from Ladakh was Lagotis kunawurensis 
(neither Picrorhiza nor Lagotis cashmeriana
grow in Ladakh).

According to Singh et al. P.kurrooa has been cultivated in Western Nepal but as 
this is well beyond its range, more likely to be
N.scrophulariifolia.   When I began work as a consultant to The Royal 
Government of Nepal on the 'Cultivation of Medicinal
Plants for Traditional Medicine Project' in the 1990s, 'hong len' in Bhutan had 
been identified as P.kurrooa - a misidentification for
N.scrophulariifolia.

The authors of 'Tibetan Medicinal Plants' observe that the drug derived from 
P.kurrooa is very important, not only in Tibetan Medicine, but particularly in  
Ayuvedic medicine.  Its importance and the big market for the plant become 
clear when one browsed the internet (presumably
this is still the case), where several sites displayed products prepared from 
Picrorhiza.  Concern had been expressed by naturalists,
claiming it was "Extensively exploited by local people for sale".  But this has 
no doubt been going on for a century or more.  There
is a claim that large-scale exploitation may lead to its extinction.  Incorrect.

I STRONGLY DISAGREE.  THE WORST THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT POPULATIONS WILL BE 
REDUCED BUT EVEN IF
SEVERELY (AND WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS CLAIM), SUFFICIENT COLONIES 
WILL CONTINUE TO
INHABIT INACCESSIBLE SPOTS, ENSURING ITS SURVIVAL.

SURELY, THE QUESTION IS EFFICIENT MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE SUSTAINABLE COLLECTION - 
IF IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT
PLANT.

KLETTER & KREICHBAUM STATE THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE AT ALL THAT DIFFICULT IF THE 
HARVESTING OF PLANTS
WERE REGULATED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND CONTROLLED BY THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES (as is 
the case for gentians in
the alps): THE GOVERNMENT PROTECTS THE SPECIES BY LAW, GIVING SPECIAL PERMITS 
ONLY TO LOCAL FAMILIES,
WHICH ARE CONTROLLED BY THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES OR GROUPS ON THEIR OWN, AND SELL 
THEIR HARVEST TO
TRADERS.  THE LOCAL COLLECTION AREA IS DIVIDED INTO SEVERAL PARTS WHICH ARE 
EXPLOITED IN A ROTATION
SYSTEM.  THE HARVEST TAKES PLACE IN ONE OF THESE SUBAREAS ONLY, AND ONLY PART 
OF THE PLANT POPULATION
IS COLLECTED, ABOUT ONE THIRD REMAINS AS "SEED PLANTS" FOR REGENERATION, WHICH 
TAKES PLACE FOR
SEVERAL YEARS DURING WHICH THE AREA IS NOT TO BE TOUCHED.  THUS, HARVESTING CAN 
TAKE PLACE EVEY YEAR,
BUT ALWAYS ROTATING TO ANOTHER AREA, AND NEVER TAKING ALL PLANTS FROM A SINGLE 
POPULATION.

I realise the above example is from Switzerland and surrounding countries and 
not India but why cannot India and Indians follow an example which works?  This 
could be applied to other medicinal plants where 'concerns' exist (valid or 
otherwise).  Strikes me as a much better way
of operating, rather than repeated rather sensationalist 'claims' of species 
being 'Critically Endangered' (the PROPER definition of which
needs to be understood i.e. AT SERIOUS RISK OF EXTINCTION.




Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

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