Thanks, Rawat ji On 25 February 2017 at 17:16, D.S Rawat <[email protected]> wrote:
> *Soroseris* genus (Asteraceae, Cichorieae) is represented by two species > in Uttarakhand: > 1. *S. gillii *(S.Moore) Stebbins > 2.* S. glomerata* (Decne.) Stebbins > Both are known from Gangotri National Park in Uttarakhand and mentioned as > rare (Pusalkar & Singh 2012). > However, *S. hookeriana* is not known in Uttarakhand yet. > > DSRawat Pantnagar > > On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 9:07:55 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >> I do not find any single match in efi site for Soroseris >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: C CHADWELL <[email protected]> >> Date: 24 February 2017 at 18:39 >> Subject: Soroseris hookeriana - a NEW genus for eFI?? >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> >> >> I do not know which tribe Soroseris belongs to, so may have missed this >> genus >> amongst the listings for Asteraceae on eFI- repeat that I find the >> sub-division of Asteraceae >> (large though the family is) into tribes does not help me. >> >> I have always operated primarily with GENERA. When I come across a plant >> in the UK or >> the Himalaya that I do not immediately recognise which SPECIES it belongs >> to, I start thinking >> which genus? Failing that, which family? I do not think in terms of >> tribes. I have found very few >> people think in terms of families and almost none of tribes. >> >> In the past, both floras and guides (such as Flowers of the Himalaya) >> were arranged 'Systematically' >> by supposedly related families. I NEVER found this helpful, so rapidly >> adopted a ALPHABETICAL >> approach, which I encourage (although as one can see on eFI) there have >> been many name changes >> of families in recent decades. Nowadays in the UK, very few people learn >> about plant families or even >> if they know lots of them, think in terms of which other families are >> closely-related. >> >> *Regardless of whether the genus or species is new to eFI, I doubt if >> there will have been many* >> *postings - as like, Fritillaria delavayii, which I have just posted >> about, this species is another* >> *'high' alpine. Not many botanists or other members of this group from >> India have reached such* >> *elevations particularly if major treks are required.* >> >> The image below was scanned in from a slide taken in the early 1990s when >> I was working as a consultant >> to The Royal Government of Bhutan. The pressed specimen was collected >> for the mini-herbarium at the >> National Institute of Traditional Medicine, Thimphu on stony slopes at >> some 4400m on Yak La, Lingshi district >> in July 1990. >> >> Soroseris hookeriana is illustrated in 'Flowers of the Himalaya' recorded >> on stony slopes & screes in drier >> areas from Himachal Pradesh to SE Tibet @ 4300-5500m. *Is this known >> from Uttarakhand, I wonder?* >> >> Flora of Bhutan records this from among boulders and on screes @ >> 3650-4720m in Sikkim, Chumbi and Bhutan. >> Populations in NE Bhutan and the Sikkim/Chumbi border do not fit well >> within this species, seeming to be >> intermediate between this species and S.hirsuta. >> >> This flora also records S.erysimoides from Bhutan & Chumbi on screes @ >> 4-4600m. The authors observe that >> few populations correspond well with this species. Some appear close to >> S.hookeriana. >> >> *Such taxonomic uncertainty is beyond the scope of eFI plus I do not >> envisage too many formal botanical* >> *expeditions exploring much in these regions in the coming years and even >> if they do, it is unlikely that any* >> *images will be shared with this site. So we need not concern ourselves >> too much with these matters, except* >> *to be aware that even the world's leading taxonomists at the top >> institutions find it difficult to be certain as to* >> *which species some specimens belong to.* >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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