Thanks,  Chadwell ji

On 27 Feb 2017 4:10 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Interesting to hear of an extension to the range of this species.
>
> Yes, it could well be rare in Kumaon.   Almost all species have a
> geographic and altitudinal range, sometimes climatic.
> At some point a species will reach its limit and thus be rare regardless
> of any 'damage' caused by man.  Care should be taken, when assessing
> overall rarity (or abundance) when surveying at such limits, as restricted
> occurrence in such districts is not necessarily representative of the
> species in the whole of its range.
>
> Species that are typically forest or forest clearing dwellers in higher
> rainfall regions of the Himalaya such as Sinopodophyllum hexandum (syn.
> Podophyllum hexandrum) are also found in the TransHimalaya e.g. in Lahaul
> and
> Ladakh (in the latter case it is found in the Suru Valley, which has
> higher rainfall than other parts of this area).  It is
> somewhat uncommon here but as far as I know, never found in the main Upper
> Indus Valley near Leh).  At some point in its range it is 'Rare' but to
> therefore classify the species as a whole as 'Rare' let alone 'Endangered'
> is to misunderstand plant ecology/geography.
>
> *It is helpful to have reference images (as good a possible) of as many
> species in the eFI data-base.  Hopefully, this will help with them being
> noticed elsewhere (potentially extending ranges) helping obtaining a
> clearer picture of distribution than is possible from herbarium specimens
> alone (which can easily be a century or more old).*
>
> *The photographers amongst this group can also take new, ideally better
> images (showing both floral and foliage) rather than relying upon scanned
> in images of slides from decades ago - or images of pressed, herbarium
> specimens.*
>
> *The more detail which can been seen, the better we can understand Indian
> flora - whether in the Himalaya, which is my speciality or in other regions
> of India.*
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* D.S Rawat <[email protected]>
> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 February 2017, 7:00
> *Subject:* Re: Himalayan Ginseng (Panax pseudo-ginseng) at fruting stage
> in Eastern Himalaya
>
> Panax pseudo-ginseng Wall. (Araliaceae) has its distribution extended up
> to Kumaon (eastern region of Uttarakhand; Garhwal being western region). I
> have seen it in Sunderdhunga valley between (about) 2000-2500m in forest.
> Based on this sighting it appeared rare in Uttarakhand, may be also due to
> its westernmost limit here.
> DSRawat Pantnagar
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 9:52:50 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com
> <[email protected]>>
> Date: 27 Feb 2017 3:56 a.m.
> Subject: Himalayan Ginseng (Panax pseudo-ginseng) at fruting stage in
> Eastern Himalaya
> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
> Cc:
>
> I attach 2 images scanned in from slides taken by P.Curzon in Eastern
> Nepal of
> Himalayan Ginseng in fruit.
>
> Flowers of Himalaya record P.pseudo-ginseng Wall. from forests &
> shrubberies @
> 2100-4300m from Central Nepal to SW China and Myanamar.
>
> They mention nothing of it being rare - indeed it is unlikely to have been
> included
> in their guide had it been so.  There is a line drawing. Nothing said of
> variants.
>
> Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal has subspecies pseudo-ginseng,
> which is apparently confined to Nepal, subspecies himalaicus which is
> further
> divided into var. himalaicus, var. angustifolius & var. bipinnatifidus.
>
> Flora of Bhutan (Vol. 2 Part I, 1991) which covers Araliaceae records the
> species
> in coniferous forest in Darjeeling, Sikkim, Chumbi & Bhutan @ 1500-3650m.
>
> The authors describe this as an important species in traditional
> medicine.  The typical
> subspecies pseudo-ginseng with short rhizomes & carrot-like roots has not
> been recorded
> from Bhutan or Sikkim.
>
> Whereas the variant found in Bhutan & Sikkim have long creeping nodular
> rhizomes,
> segregated as subsp. himalaicus Hara.
>
> This has been further subdivided into: var. bipinnatifidus (Seemann)
> Li with pinnatifid leaflets
> with sharply incised lobes; and var. angustifolius (Burkill) Li - the
> latter is widespread in Bhutan,
> Darjeeling and Sikkim.  One of these varieties was considered a superior
> for, one the inferior
> form, in Bhutanese Medicine.
>
> I know this medicinal plant from my time as a consultant to The Royal
> Government of Bhutan in
> the 1990s.  I saw it growing in forest in Central Bhutan.  Cultivation
> trials were already underway
> when I first visited Bhutan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
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