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From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
Date: 20 March 2017 at 21:33
Subject: Re: [itpmods:10400] Fwd: Are we not the biggest site in the world
for wild plants with images ?
To: itpmods <[email protected]>


Yes as pointed out by Pankaj ji, there are several other databases larger
than us, but mostly managed by renowned institutions. Whenever I am out of
station and want to check a plant for herbarium comparison, live images,
nomenclature status, I mostly refer to website of Missouri Botanical Garden
and its Forefront TROPICOS (4,486,003 specimens, 508,768 images). New York
Botanical Garden and Kew Garden have other huge collections of both
herbarium images and live plant photographs, to cite a few
    But then ours is a unique group with our leading contributors being
members who know very little of formal botanical techniques. We are lucky
that Tabish ji has given a face to our botanical photographs, and happy
that most of our contributors here have contributed to Flowers of India
also, where any body without botanical knowledge can identify the plants by
simple comparison. I hope soon all our plants would be represented there.
    We are all indebted to Garg ji for having given us platform to interact
and be known not only in India but other parts of the world. I am
frequently contacted by people suffering from ailments, when they see
photographs of medicinal plants contributed by us on efloraoofindia
and/Flowers of India.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]>
wrote:

> As Pankaj Ji have pointed out, we may not be largest, as far as the number
> of associated images is counted. But, we are conceptually very unique in
> our approach, we can surely boast of being the pioneers in Indian context.
> We are dealing with plant identifications and taxonomic analysis of flora
> from all corners of our very large and diverse country, and even we have
> considerable data across the globe.
> A long way to go, but efloraofindia never stopped. This spirit of moving
> on will pave way of our great success, and I believe we should not go for
> comparisons or competitions.
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pankaj ji.
>> Well said. There is nothing to be get offended. It is nice that you have
>> provided some data, which possibly I was aware of as far as herbarium
>> images are concerned- as many organisations are working aggressively in
>> this direction including GBIF, Kew etc.
>>
>> I just wanted to highlight that we may be one of the biggest in the world
>> in so many aspects & want to explore whether there is some truth to it or
>> not.
>>
>>
>> On 20 March 2017 at 13:57, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dont get offended if I say it is not the largest, because Chinese
>>> Virtual Herbaium has 5,000,000 images but the images also mean images of
>>> herbarium specimens. And CVH is ofcourse working under collaboration with
>>> around 52 different Universities in China and Taiwan and hence lot of
>>> subject experts as well as citizen scientists involved many of whom are
>>> paid to do that, although it started at a much lower scale once.
>>> But
>>> That doesnt make our efforts smaller. I must say that we have come a
>>> long long way but still we have a long way to go and I am confident that we
>>> can one day have atleast a full flora of India represented on our eflora.
>>> We are not a google group but a family and our efforts can never be under
>>> estimated. As dDinesh sir said, it is really ONE OF ITS KIND where no money
>>> is involved, no professional organisation is involved but only our selfless
>>> efforts.
>>> Thanks and regards
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Lalithamba Avadhanam <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is true, if we add fruit and other identifiable characters to as
>>>> many as plants it is fantastic
>>>> regards
>>>> Lalithamba
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This post skipped my attention.
>>>>> I too think eFI must be largest, and one-of-a-kind site - that is,
>>>>> though there are many sites related to botany / taxonomy / etc. I do not
>>>>> find any site that has so much of substance, in terms of pages made per
>>>>> species, the number of pictures illustrated on the page, relevant content
>>>>> from the group / forum regularly getting associated to the site.
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:39 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 20 March 2017 at 11:39
>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Are we not the biggest site in the world for wild
>>>>>> plants with images ?
>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Awaiting any thoughts in the matter, even wild ones although I know
>>>>>> we have to go a long way as well as focus on better accuracy of our
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 10 March 2017 at 15:39
>>>>>> Subject: Are we not the biggest site in the world for wild plants
>>>>>> with images ?
>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>> While discussing a few things with someone, it just stuck me that
>>>>>> possibly we are the biggest site in the world for wild plants with 
>>>>>> images ?
>>>>>> I do a lot of searching & have not come across many big sites with
>>>>>> images on wild plants.
>>>>>> Most of such sites are specialised ones restricting themselves to
>>>>>> some family or genus or to cultivated plants etc.
>>>>>> I think we have more than 2,50,000 images at out links out of which
>>>>>> 30,000 to 40,000 have already been inserted.
>>>>>> And what we are creating now in the form of comparative images at
>>>>>> genera pages appears to be a unique work in the world at such a large 
>>>>>> scale.
>>>>>> Further, if we consider non commercial sites without any
>>>>>> advertisements, it certainly is a great feat. Are we number one in this
>>>>>> aspect also?
>>>>>> I request members to give more inputs in the matter.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or 
>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or 
>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or 
>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>> of India'.
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>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>
>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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