Thank you, Sir Regards On May 21, 2017 12:10 AM, "Tapas Chakrabarty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anil ji, > > You are most welcome. Please also attach herbarium labels with the > specimens so that they can be deposited in herb. CAL in due course when the > studies on them are over. Please use some hard board so that the specimens > are not damaged during transit. > > Best regards, > Tapas. > > > My postal address: > > TAPAS CHAKRABARTY > 4, BOTANICAL GARDEN LANE > P. O. BOTANIC GARDEN > HOWRAH - 711 103 (WB). > > MOBILE: +91 9051737959 > > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Respected Chakrabarty Sir, >> >> Can I send dried specimens to you for further action? >> >> Regards >> Dr. Anil Thakur >> >> On 4/6/17, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I clearly hinted that this plant is a hitherto unrecognized species of >> > Persea and therefore think that it should be described as a new species >> > after thorough investigation following usual procedure. >> > >> > On Apr 6, 2017 12:55, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> I have also seen this tree, in Mussoorie and in Chakrata area, the >> input >> >> received is a conflict between the two, Neolitsea pallens and Persia >> >> duthei...all due to the fact that I could not record flower pics on any >> >> of >> >> the occasions..!!! >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Dr. Nidhan Singh >> >> >> >> Dr. Nidhan Singh ji, I have photographs of fruits of Neolitsea pallens >> >> with me. I had photographed them in 2015 & 2016. I was was successful >> >> in clicking the plants in flowering stage this year. Here this plant >> >> flowers in February when no other tree is in flowering stage in Shimla. >> >> Even herbaceous plants are not in flowering except Viola canescens, >> >> Valerians jatamansi and Ainslea aptera. >> >> Regards >> >> Anil Thakur >> >> >> >> PL. see fruits of Persea duthiei at http://www.europeana.eu/portal >> >> /en/record/11614/_HERBARIUMSPECIMEN_RBGK_UK_K000228447.html >> >> Let us start with the generic identity. Well, *Persea *is a poorly >> >> defined genus, and especially it is difficult to distinguish it from >> the >> >> segregate genus *Machilus*. However, we may observes the >> >> paniculate-cymose type of infructescences, 6 tepals persistent at the >> >> base >> >> of the fruits which are spreading to reflexed (a cupule is absent). >> The >> >> leaves are alternate or slightly clustered, pinnately veined and >> glaucous >> >> on the undersurface. These characters conform to the genus *Persea >> >> *Mill. >> >> as defined by Werff (in Blumea 46: 125-140. 2001). In absence of a >> >> taxononic revision, we have to depend on the available floristic >> >> treatments. I find that the images posted by you closely match with >> >> *Persea >> >> duthiei *(King ex Hook.f.) Kosterm., described from your area.but your >> >> photographs are not of *P. duthiei. *If we consult the protologue of >> this >> >> species and the images of the type materials housed in the Kew >> herbarium >> >> ( >> >> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getHomePageResults.do?homePageS >> >> earchText=Persea+duthiei&x=10&y=10&homePageSearchOption=scie >> >> ntific_name&nameOfSearchPage=home_page) and particularly the image at >> ( >> >> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000228447) we >> find >> >> that the fruits are subglobose and noted to be half inch in diam. (in >> the >> >> protologue) and ca 10 mm in diam. (as on the type specimens). >> >> Then what is the identity of your plant? The fruits in your plant are >> >> clearly ovoid-ellipsoid and probably much larger in size than in *P. >> >> duthiei *and I also find that the lateral nerves of leaves are fewer in >> >> number. Hence I feel that the present images are very interesting and >> >> need to be studied in detail. You may please collect plenty of >> herbarium >> >> specimens both in flowering and fruiting and study in detail. The >> images >> >> are not matching with any species of *Persea *described so far from >> India >> >> and adjoining areas. >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Tapas. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >> >> Date: 7 March 2017 at 21:41 >> >> Subject: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR >> 2017/16 >> >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kindly suggest >> >> Is it some Persea species ?? >> >> Lauraceae >> >> Shimla >> >> May 2016 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> With best Regards, >> >> >> >> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "efloraofindia" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] >> . >> >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> With regards, >> >> J.M.Garg >> >> >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >> Flora, >> >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >> the >> >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or >> >> Efloraofindia >> >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >> >> >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >> >> etc. >> >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free >> as >> >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> >> India'. >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> With best Regards, >> >> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
