Yes, the spur shown in the figure in Akiyama & Ohba (which I have attached)
agrees well with Saroj's flower. Interestingly, it is different from that
in the figure in Grey-Wilson, which I had attached in my earlier response.
However the prominently jutting forward "hump" on the dorsal petal,
characteristic of I. jurpia, is missing in Saroj's flower. I hope this
small hump is within the variations in the species.
Tabish
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On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:39 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Wojciech ji.
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> From: "Wojciech Adamowski" <[email protected]>
> Date: 06-Jul-2017 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: SK612 03 JUL-2017:ID
> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
> Cc:
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> I know this paper by Grey-Wilson.
> Grey-Wilson C. 1989. The Impatiens jurpia complex. Studies in
> Balsaminaceae: 10. Kew Bull. 44,1: 115-122.
> However, recently Akiyama revised this group of balsams and I follow her
> opinion.
> Akiyama S., Ohba H. 2015. Studies of Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) of Nepal 2.
> Impatiens jurpia, I. urticifolia, and Allied Species. Bull. Natl. Mus. Nat.
> Sci., Ser. B, 41,4: 161–178.
> Besides Saroj's ji plants lacks big lateral sepals - see picture in
> Grey-Wilson's paper and compare with photographs.
> I will ask Rajib Gogoi for opinion.
> Best regards Wojciech
>
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> 13:18 czwartek, 2017-7-6, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> napisał(a):
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> From: *Tabish* <[email protected]>
> Date: 6 July 2017 at 15:44
> Subject: Re: Fwd: SK612 03 JUL-2017:ID
> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" <
> [email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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>
> I don't thing it Impatiens jurpia as in that species, the "hump" on the
> dorsal petal is 7-11 mm, as shown in the figure attached. Also the the spur
> (the tail) is quite curved in I. jurpia.
> It looks closer to the related species Impatiens cathcartii, which is
> found in Darjeeling and Sikkim regions. The spur of Impatiens cathcartii is
> only weakly curved, and the "hump" is 1-5 mm long. Also Saroj's flower
> visually looks closer to that in Fig. 1G.
> Tabish
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> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Impatiens jurpia Buch.-Ham.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Garg,
>
> Should we refer to Dr. Gogoi ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Wojciech Adamowski <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> It could take loooooong time, as all what I know is from literature and
> pictures found via internet...
> However, Dr. Rajib Gogoi will be doing revision of balsams of Sikkim and
> West Bengal in next three years.
> I suppose he will be interested in pictures of Impatiens from this area.
> Best regards Wojciech
>
>
> 16:50 wtorek, 2017-7-4, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> napisał(a):
>
>
> Thank you Mr. Adamowski. I guess it is matching .
> Shall I wait for further verification ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 7:43 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Wojciech ji.
>
> On 04-Jul-2017 7:26 PM, "Wojciech Adamowski" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> This one looks like I. jurpia or something close.
> See recent paper by Akiyama and Ohba https://www.kahaku.go.jp/
> research/publication/botany/do wnload/41_4/BNMNS_B41-4_161.pd f
> <https://www.kahaku.go.jp/research/publication/botany/download/41_4/BNMNS_B41-4_161.pdf>
> Authors don't describe lower side of leaf as purple, but they were working
> mainly with herbarium specimens.
> Best regards Wojciech
>
>
> 4:09 wtorek, 2017-7-4, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> napisał(a):
>
>
> Beautiful images.
> Pl. Also check comparative images in efi site.
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> From: "Saroj Kasaju" <[email protected]>
> Date: 03-Jul-2017 10:03 PM
> Subject: SK612 03 JUL-2017:ID
> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected] m
> <[email protected]>>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
> Cc:
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Soureni, Mirik, India
> Date: 18 May 2017
> Altitude: 4500 ft.
>
> Impatiens ... ??
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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