Dear Dr Amit There are many other characters, some of which can't be explained in words. If you give two plants in my hand then i might be able to tell without flowers. Touch the leaf, one is leathery other is papery (now different people will explain this differently and some may not be able to differentiate, it comes with experience and comes with the ability to feel the touch of leaves). The bulb is shiny in one, but not shiny in another. But with flowers, they can be very easily distinguished because you can see if the lateral sepals are fused underneath. Please remember for people like me who can see only what u provide. Sometimes it's a guess, while other times by mistake or so the prominent character is right in front of me. Identification from pics always has such limitations.
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Amit Setiya <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected all > The two species Pholidota pallida and P. imbricata are really confusing > but the explanation provided by Dr. Pankaj Kumar Sir is very good. But > still, I feel there should be more prominent distinguishing characters to > be highlighted which would help the scholars in finding the real difference > between the two. I have also seen numbers of reputed publication stating > those as synomones. > > Let me share one incident where my Paper got rejected with the reason - > it's not properly identified! > So, I request all the experts in Orchidaceae to please take part in the > discussion and similarly help me in finding the correct id for the species. > I am attaching the photographs. > > amit.. > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:57 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >> Date: 26 August 2017 at 08:53 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:275709] Re: Pholidota imbricata Lindl. >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >> > >> >> >> Thanks Garg ji & Pankaj ji, >> >> Very very useful information by Pankaj ji. >> M.Swamy >> >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>> >>> On 25-Aug-2017 1:50 PM, "Dr Pankaj Kumar" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Finally, I see this plant after a long wait and with a photograph from >>>> a perfect angle. This is interesting because this is not Pholidota >>>> imbricata but Pholidota pallida. The lateral sepals as seen in the pictures >>>> are surely fused with each other on one margin under labellum. We don't see >>>> this species so often and even if we see, we misidentify it as Pholidota >>>> imbricata because that's the most common one. >>>> In Pholidota imbricata the lateral sepals are not fused on the lower >>>> margin and distinctly separate and diverging. >>>> Thanks a lot for sharing. >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:23:38 UTC+8, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Members, >>>>> >>>>> Location: Pharping, Nepal >>>>> Altitude: 4600 ft. >>>>> Date: 05 July 2014 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to >>> pic/indiantreepix/n4WimmXVhYM/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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