Dear Rashida ji,

Please check this paper for Allelochemicals of Gliricidia.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/t554w03281740g70/

Take the services of Google scholar and Scirus.com.

I have published a lot on different aspects of Allelopathy. For my
scientific papers please see this link

http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=reference&Author=oudhia&MaxList=0&AuthorWild=CO


When I started Ethnobotanical surveys, I observed that the Traditional
Healers have in depth Traditional Knowledge about plant to plant
relationships. They exploit this relationship to enrich plants with desired
medicinal properties. I named this knowledge as Traditional Allelopathic
Knowledge. Over 7500 research documents based on this knowledge are online
through Botanical.com whereas thousands of documents are at
pankajoudhia.comand Ecoport.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:12 PM, rashida atthar
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  Dr. Gurcharan ji Thank you for explanation of allelopathy phenomenon. How
> does than one explain the prevalence of number of wild flowers trees at very
> close proximity to Gliricidias in Mumbai forest and as I have mentioned in
> my earlier response in this discussion in the plot I am studying and
> observing since over two years now where flowers are growing around the
> trees and have other trees very close like wrightia, silk cottton, and
> several other.
>
> Also in the case of Gliricidia which is the chemical that is prohibiting
> the growth of others would be interesting to know. A lot of mention is of
> plantation on barren ground, unless concerted efforts were made to
> plant different trees and herbs and than a study is conducted to see their
> survival how can one draw a conclusion?
>
> regards,
> Rashida.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:26:07 +0530
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:32224] Re: Gliricidia sepium
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]
>
>
> Pardesi ji
> The phenomenon mentioned by you with regard to this tree is commenly
> referred as allelopathy. The classical example is the walnut tree juglans
> regia, which also allows hardly any plant to grow beneath or around it for
> some distance. Many such plants contain or release in the atmosphere certain
> toxic chemical substances which inhibit the growth of others.
> This phenomenon broadly allelochemy is responsible for  us getting so many
> antibiotics to cure our diseases.
>      There was a classical research on sage bushes in USA not allowing
> herbs to grow beneath it due to the release of toxic substances. It is
> another matter that some attributed this to herbivores hiding under the sage
> bushes and foraging on the herbs, not venturing out to forage on other herbs
> for fear of larger cornivores in the area. It was only that in another case
> herbivores were excluded from the study that allelopathy was proved.
>     Nature provides many such interesting examples.
>
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>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, rashida atthar <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
> This is interesting. Satish pardeshi ji any scientific data on what
> vegetation was existing before the plantations in these areas of study and
> are the vegetations /trees that were planted post the Gliricidia plantations
> and were not able to thrive.?
>
> How does this compare to other trees that are planted on mass scale? Does
> the same phenomenon exist? Some of these questions will lead to some
> concrete understanding.
>
> regards,
> Rashida.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:27:47 +0530
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:32266] Re: Gliricidia sepium
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>
>
> Mr. Yazdy Palia
> let me clarify  that it was not an observation of a casual observer but
> a scientific survey of vegetation types across state of Maharashtra. what
> ever i have mentioned is the observation of scientific  study
> in the Gliricidia plantation (plantation done by Forest department) in the
> district of Ahmednagar, Aurangabad, Akola, Washim and other districts.  note
> that i  was referring to Gliricidia plantation and not a few distantly
> placed Gliricidia plants planted as "coffee-shade". i have observed very few
> plants growing beneath the plantataion right from Monsoon to summer season.
> for the reference i am providing few images taken during the survey.
>
> Regards
> Satish Pardeshi
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Mr. Satish Pardeshi
> If what you say is true, Nothing would ever grow in my farm. I have
> thousands of these trees in my 40 acre farm. I grow coffee and pepper
> mainly. A lot of my pepper plants are growing on these gliricidia
> trees. I do not know how long a time was spent by you in these
> gliricidia plantations that you speak about.
> There has to be some reason why you do not see vegetation under its
> canopy. I wonder about the nature of the soil for starters. If it is
> infertile land, you may not see much vegetation in any case. What is
> the amount of rainfall that these areas receive? I have seen during my
> stay at kaneh and Kamshet that the farmers graze sheep in these
> forests. Sheep as you know is enemy number one of any forest. If sheep
> grazing is practiced in these plantations, nothing will grow.  A
> casual visitor may assume that nothing grows under the canopy.
> As far as the fallen leaves are concerned, they only encourage growth
> of all plants. If you ever go there and try and move the leaves after
> a few rains you will find plenty of fresh feeder roots of all plants
> weeds or otherwise encouraged by the humus created by these falling
> leaves. The fallen leaves encourages growth of the microorganism that
> is part of soil fertility.
> There is another malaise of the areas that you mention. The villagers
> not only use these trees for firewood but they also take huge amounts
> of firewood for the local hotels (small ones) thereby making the area
> barren after a few years. Evidence of this could be seen daily in the
> morning when any train stops at small stations like palasdhari, monkey
> hill on the Lonavala track. They all hang the firewood on the window
> grill of the train and unload it at Lonavala.
> Gliricidia planted in such barren areas will nourish the soil and make
> it fertile within a few years.
> Regards
> Yazdy.
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hello all
> > Vast areas  and barren hillls are planted with Gliricidia in
> > Ahmednagar, Aurangabad, Osmanabad, Pune, Washim and Akola. the tree
> > adapt it self to the environment and grows quickly. even when the
> > trunk is cut down the coppice grows very fast and forms the green
> > cover. the locals used it for fuel wood. i have observed the plants
> > growing under the canopy of gliricidia plantation, and would like to
> > mention  that very few plants could survive under it. only a  few
> > grasses could be found growing under it. the thick layer of dried
> > fallen leaves also hinder the growth of other herbs.
> >
> > Regards
> > Satish Pardeshi
> >
> > On Apr 14, 10:27 am, mani nair <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Thanks Rashidaji for the information.
> >> Regards,
> >> Mani.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, rashida atthar
> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >  Mani ji according to the book 'Trees of Mumbai', the scientific name
> >> > Gliricidia is derived from the Spanish name  'Mata Raton' meaning
> mouse
> >> > killer. 'Gliris' means mouse and 'Caedo' means killer. Sepium means
> hedge,
> >> > the tree is sometimes planted as a hedge. Further the book mentions
> that in
> >> > cocoa plantations it is grown as a shade tree, when grown as a hedge
> along
> >> > crop fields, it acts as a wind breaker. The bark of the tree is
> powdered and
> >> > mixed with rice/ maize flour baits set up to kill rats.
> >>
> >> > regards,
> >> > Rashida.
> >>
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:13:24 +0530
> >> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:32227] Gliricidia sepium
> >>
> >> > From: [email protected]
> >> > To: [email protected]
> >> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected];
> >> > [email protected]; [email protected];
> >> > [email protected]
> >>
> >> > I believe that the bark of the trees is used as a rat poison.
> >>
> >> > Please clarify.
> >>
> >> > Regards,
> >>
> >> > Mani.
> >>
> >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Padmini Raghavan <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Yazdyji,
> >> >  I have been trying without success to get a sapling of Gliricidia
> sepium
> >> > as we have a rat menace at our  apartment compound. A family of
> bandicoots
> >> > has made itself so well entrenched that their burrows have killed a
> row of
> >> > various coloured Ceasalpinia pulcherrima
> >> > adjacent to our compound wall. The one cutting I obtained did not
> root,
> >> > (inspite of it being called Quickstick)!
> >> >  My neihbours have tried Rat poison but it has not worked.
> >>
> >> > In 1960, my uncle had planted a whole lot of these saplings to give
> shelter
> >> > to teak seedlings he had planted on his land, which was on a small
> hill
> >> > behind the farmhouse at a village (Ghunpur) near Nizamabad. He had
> hoped
> >> > that a teak forest would make the summers more bearable.
> >>
> >> > I too would love to obtain some seeds from you.
> >> > Rgds,
> >> > Padmini Raghavan.
> >> >  On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Tanay,
> >> > Just tell me how much you require, I will send you mature pods or
> >> > seeds that have been dispersed when the pods burst.
> >> > I have a few thousand of these trees. They form excellent green
> >> > manure, they nourish the soil by fixing nitrogen and they are very
> >> > good standards for cultivating black pepper. Ultimately if and when
> >> > you think of cutting them, they give very good timber for small
> >> > furniture as good as teak.
> >> > The flowers provide plenty of nectar for my honey bees too.
> >> > Regards
> >> > Yazdy.
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