WOW…dinesh ji.. Thanks for sharing this…
So here u see… To confirm B. lacera u have to see achenes And to confirm B. oxyodentata u have to see leaves arrangement at the base… Besides u need to see heads in whole plant. -- Hemant G. Tripathi From: Dinesh Valke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:57 PM To: Hemanth Cc: tanay bose; Satish Chile; efloraofindia Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:32359] Re: Request for ID: 180310-AK-3 Dear friends, Blumea keys and descriptions of B. lacera and B. oxyodonta (referred from T. Cooke's, The Flora of the Presidency of Bombay ... Vol I, Part I) attached. Intended for reference ... the ID may or may not resolve to Blumea. Regards. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Hemanth <[email protected]> wrote: Dinesh I don’t have any flora for me to see keys at the moment.. But what I know is most the floras have Blumea ID on 1. Wooly texture 2. Florets 3. Margins 4. Leaves position and arrangement …(in order of priority). The florets I think would be much more exploited in detail for correct ID. The first character that should segregate Blumea lacera is Wooly texture. I think B. oxyodonta doesn’t have such rich texture. I could confirm if I can get some more picture of this specimen… But for now I feel (just feel) that this may be Blumea lacera. It would be very wrong to say anything (literally anything) just based on this photograph. I may be wrong. - Hemant G. Tripathi From: Dinesh Valke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:11 PM To: Hemanth Cc: tanay bose; Satish Chile; efloraofindia Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:32359] Re: Request for ID: 180310-AK-3 Well said, dear Hemanth ... agreeing to your points. >From your thoughts, it looks like there are more genera that this plant could >conform to, one of which could be Blumea. While you think the plant could possibly be B. lacera ... please let know what characteristic(s) of this plant make(s) you think the plant may not be B. oxyodonta Regards. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Hemanth <[email protected]> wrote: Dear all, Its very difficult to confirm the identity on such photographs. To confirm ID of this plant, Anyone would need, 1. Good close up of inflorescence head 2. Good close up of florets (if possible) 3. A close up of leaves upper and underside 4. A picture of habit i.e. longshot of plant 5. And several other pictures from different sides of the head Only then we can arrive to some idea . To get a accurate id we need to see many other characters To my personal eye it looks more like Blumea lacera. I would fear even to call this specimen Blumea. There would be lot of genera closer to this. I request expert opinion. Regards, -- Hemant G. Tripathi From: tanay bose [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:16 PM To: Satish Chile Cc: Dinesh Valke; Hemanth; efloraofindia Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:32359] Re: Request for ID: 180310-AK-3 HAPPY TO SEE ANOTHER OF MY IDENTIFICATION GOT ITSELF A GOOD PLACE TANAY On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Satish Chile <[email protected]> wrote: Dinesh ji I also agree with you except for the spines which is found on leaves on B.oxyodonta other charatetrs match with B.lacera. Satish On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: Hemanth, the leaf margin has spines ... most of other characteristics similar to B. lacera. Please let know if identification is ambiguous based on this characteristic. Regards. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Hemanth <[email protected]> wrote: how did u all confirm that it is Blumea oxyodonta...? it may be... but its quite difficult to id this spes this way? - hemant On Apr 15, 5:03 pm, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > ... me too believe it to be *B. oxyodonta* > Regards. > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > > “I hope this plant is Blumea oxyodonta from the family Asteraceae commonly > > lnown as "Spiny leaved Blumea" > > > Regards > > Tanay” > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> > > Date: 18 March 2010 14:20 > > Subject: [efloraofindia:30161] Request for ID: 180310-AK-3 > > To: [email protected] > > > *Taken on 1st Dec,09 at 12.28 Pratapgadh, Mahabaleshwar* > > ** > > ** > > *Date/Time* : 1st of December, 2009/ 12.28 pm. > > *Location Place* : Pratapgadh,Mahabaleshwar ... *Altitude* : ... *GPS*:... > > Ha*bitat* : Wild ... *Type* : > > *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* : > > *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* : as seen ... *Size* : tiny > > *Inflorescence Type* : ... *Size* : > > *Flowers Size* : about 1 cm ... *Colour* : yellow ... *Calyx* : ... * > > Bracts* : > > *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* : ... *Seeds* : > > > *Other Info* : > > *Fragrance* : ... *Pollinator* : ... *Uses* : > > > Found growing on the rocks at Pratap gadh. > > Aarti > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "efloraofindia" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > <mailto:indiantreepix%[email protected]> > > <indiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com <http://legroups.com/> > > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > > > -- > > With regards, > > J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > > Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, > > Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): > >http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg > > For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Efloraofindia: > >http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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