Raghu ji ... about this wonder, have always thought that there "were" some members supporting, along the transverse growing liane.
Guessing the length of the "free end" (growing end) of a climber be as much a metre or even 2, possibly 3 ... and also believe that this end "senses" the direction in terms of light ... and instinctively more importantly towards support. The journey of a young liane would best be imagined by it growing over small shrubs and any hanging vines that it encounters. As time goes by, many of the "between" members would have perished ... by when the comparatively "rapidly running" liane has already anchored on stronger and taller members. All during this time, the liane too grows in size, sufficient to survive the seasonal vagaries of the forest, and perhaps topple few more of the stronger "between" member(s). Seasonal vagaries need to be imagined as strong winds, torrential rains, strong enough to create havoc (every year ? once ? twice ? ... ) For instance, the liana in your picture .... if its age were to be guessed (not good at gauging) would it be between 25 and 50 years ? .... that is quite a sufficient time for the liane to match in strength and overpower more of stronger "between" member(s) during the natural onslaughts. This phenomenon would continue for ages ... the survival of the fittest. Dear friends ... all this reasoning is simply my belief and may only be partially true !! Me too seeking comment(s) just as Raghu ji, for facts behind this wonder. Regards. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:22 PM, raghu ananth <[email protected]> wrote: > * > > Am still curious to know and understand .. > > > How do the giant Liana grow > > (swing) > > diagonally from one short tree and cling to another tall tree at a higher > elevated point ( far 60 to 100 feet distance) ? I think, they just grow > vertically and then slide to another tree taking support from it. > > The other alternative could be - the Liana grows along the ground level, > reaches another tree, takes the support, climbs up and pulls or tightens the > stiff stem behind. > > > Here are some more photographs of another giant Liana from the Talakona > forest, A.P. Some of the old Liana stems raise straight from the ground and > swings itself to another tree. > > > > Regards > > Raghu > > > * > > ------------------------------ > *From:* tanay bose <[email protected]> > *To:* raghu ananth <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thu, 15 April, 2010 6:44:29 PM > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:32321] Tree's sporting the summer look #14 > of 15 | The giant Liana - Gilla Theega- Entada Pursaetha > > WOW what a size!!! We bengali people use this fruits to crepe the arms of > the cotton kurta .... this is indeed the same *Gille* we use. > tanay > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:52 AM, raghu ananth <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Errata, >> >> #1 Pls read the tree `Shorea robusta` as `Shorea Talura`. >> #2 Botanical name changes >> O* >> >> verall, this giant Liana took support or has stamped its presence over at >> least 15 tall trees like the Bamboo, Jalari (Shorea talura ), >> * >> * >> >> Neeruddi ( >> >> Syzygium cumini ), >> >> >> >> Dolchandrone crispa >> >> , Polyalthia suberosa, , mango - Mangifera indica, (two varieties), etc. >> . >> ** >> >> * >> >> * >> >> * >> * >> >> >> * >> * >> >> 3. Sharing large format photographs of the Liana. >> >> Pls check the link. >> ** >> >> * >> * >> >> http://picasaweb.google.co.in/earthsublime/GiantLianaGillaTheega# >> * >> * >> >> >> * >> * >> >> Regards >> * >> * >> >> Raghu >> * >> * >> * >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> *To:* Satish Chile <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Parjanya guru <[email protected]>; raghu ananth < >> [email protected]>; [email protected] >> *Sent:* Thu, 15 April, 2010 10:48:25 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:32318] Tree's sporting the summer look #14 >> of 15 | The giant Liana - Gilla Theega- Entada Pursaetha >> >> generic names for *Entada* ...African dream herb, nicker bean, sea bean, >> St.Thomas bean • Hindi: barabi, chian, घीला ghila, गीला gila • Kannada: >> ganape kaayi • Malayalam: perim-kaku-valli • Marathi: गारभी garabhi, गारबी >> garabi, गारंबी garambi, गरूडवेल garudwel • Tamil: இரிக்கி irikki • Telugu: >> gilla teega, tikka tivva >> >> Many thanks, Parjanya for the Kannarese name. >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Satish Chile <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Good set of photo.* >>> >>> Entada scandens I have seen in Lanji of Balaghat District in the river >>> bank. The seeds fascinated me most.The forest viilegers of this area call >>> it "Nag Dauna". They believe the seeds of Entada sucks the poison of Kobra >>> bite ?? This is quite strange to be. >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> >>> **Also I would mention the place where we located Entada is a Naxal >>> infested area people are afraid of going there. The place is known as >>> "Chehli" Thasil Lanji Distt. Balaghat (M.P.)* >>> *Satish >>> * >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Parjanya guru <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> "GANAPE KAAYI" in Kannada... >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/15/10, raghu ananth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> Tree's sporting the summer look #14 of 15 | The giant Liana - Gilla >>>>> Theega- Entada Pursaetha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gilla Theega, Entada Pursaetha, Entada scandens >>>>> >>>>> Family Mimosaceae >>>>> >>>>> Talakona forests AP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This time of the year, many of the giant Liana's (Gilla Theega) are >>>>> bearing large brown dry fully ripe fruits, and are about to fall. Many of >>>>> them can be found either hanging on tall trees or on the forest floor. >>>>> The fruits of the tree are considered one of the largest in the plant >>>>> kingdom and measure about three and a half feet. People in this part sell >>>>> them at Rs. 30 per KG near the streams along with gooseberry and bela >>>>> phal.. >>>>> The seeds are used in healing pains afflicting knees and joints. The giant >>>>> lianas found in the Talakona forest of AP are considered to be about 300 >>>>> years old. This time I could spot and trace about half a dozen Lianas in >>>>> this place on my own. Again I could trace the Liana rooting in the soil, >>>>> emerging from the ground, Swing from tree to tree, the green leaves,the >>>>> blossoms and ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I tried to measure the length of one of the long woody twisted vines. >>>>> The bottom portion of the trunk lay flat on the ground and rooted in the >>>>> soil amidst shrubs for about 10 meters with the girth measuring 3 to 4 >>>>> meters.. It appeared like a sort of hippopotamus, giant anaconda or a >>>>> giant >>>>> leech lying down . Then it seemed to unfurl itself and cling to another >>>>> tree >>>>> among the shrubs going up to a height of 4 meters . Here, it divides >>>>> into 3 >>>>> branches ( appears like a large >>>>> >>>>> twisted rope) and climbs up again in 3 different directions.. One of >>>>> the branches of Liana, which I followed, twisted around another tree >>>>> taller >>>>> than it upto a height of about 40 feet. Again from that tree, it latched >>>>> onto a 3rd tree, which is about 70 feet in height. Here, it reached the >>>>> canopy and spread all over the tree crown. In this way, they swing >>>>> >>>>> from tree to tree and out of all the branches that I tracked, one of >>>>> the liana covered around 5 trees and 110-140 meters ( approximate). >>>>> Overall, this giant Liana took support or has stamped its presence over >>>>> at >>>>> least 15 tall trees like the Bamboo, shorea talura,Syzygium cumini, >>>>> Neeruddi, mango (two varieties), shorea robusta.... We could also see the >>>>> leaves and the >>>>> >>>>> pretty inflorescence? hanging in a cluster from one of the tall trees. >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have you ever wondered about whether one can climb a Liana, Pls wait >>>>> for my next mail. >>>>> >>>>> How does a Liana grow diagonally from one tree to another? I think the >>>>> answer is that they just grow vertically and then slide to another tree >>>>> taking support from it. ( Pls correct me if I am wrong..) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would be interested in knowing the vernacular names. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Date/Time- >>>>> 28 Mar 2010 >>>>> Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Talakona forest, Andhra Pradesh, >>>>> Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild, Forest, Eastern ghats, Botom >>>>> of the hill >>>>> Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Giant Liana >>>>> Height/Length-approx - ~ around 110 to 140 meters >>>>> Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Elliptical, Leaf tip -slight abcordate, heart >>>>> shape, 2-4cm >>>>> Inflorescence Type/ Size-As in the picture >>>>> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-cm - >>>>> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Lomentum, dry and about to fall >>>>> Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- seeds are >>>>> used in fish poisoning, healing knee or joint pains, as food for local >>>>> tribals >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for all ID corrections / additional information / >>>>> feedback/ help ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Raghu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> Parjanya Guru >>>> +919738723392 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Satish Kumar Chile >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Tanay Bose > +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) > 9830439691(Mobile) > 9674221362 (Mobile) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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