Dear Akshay - it is always much more difficult and time-consuming to reliably identify a plant when there is only a single image and there is insufficient close-up detail of floral parts and foliage. Some species within a genus can be distinctive enough and readily matched but it is always useful to have "supporting evidence". PLEASE, on future occasions take and submit many more images per specimen, in good focus and close-up - if you refer to my web-site on the flora of the NW Himalaya (see: https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/fowh/impatiens-1) this will offer extensive advice; do look through the whole site but first see the images taken of Impatiens glandulifera showing much greater detail, obtained using a modest compact digital camera.As you can see, the images provide vastly more information - which I view as "clues", the equivalent to pieces in a jig-saw puzzle. The more piece, which one can view clearly, the easier it is to arrive at an identification and the greater confidence one has in it. Otherwise one can readily end up with a misidentification. Too many data-bases, whether digital or old-fashioned printed ones, just with text or pictures, a littered with misidentified plants, which contributes to confusion and misleads.
As to this particular image, it is certainly of a *Campanula* and seems to be *C.pallida* - the flowers seem relatively large. I cannot see some of the detail, so have some reservations. 'Flowers of the Himalaya' records this from Afghanistan to SE China @ 1200-4500m in cultivated areas, on stone walls and banks - which this seems to be (amongst Cotoneaster, Geranium and Potentilla, reminding me of equivalent elevation on the Rohtang). Stewart knew this as *C.colorata*, describing it as very common and very variable from 500-2800m in N.Pakistan and Kashmir - some forms are very weedy in appearance. He recognised var. *tibetica*, recorded from Chitral through to Ladakh; I saw at the base of boulders at Koksar (just over the Rohtang Pass in Lahaul) what I considered to be this variant - Stewart fight it might well be given specific rank but the plant you photographed does not fit this. There are quite a number of Campanulas known in the NW Himalaya - much confusion remains as to distinguishing between some of them. In cultivation, such Campanulas appear to be prone to hybridisation. I wonder if that is a factor in the wild? If so, that would certainly complicate matters. IF those posting images on EFI can take more quality images, this will help us resolve numerous identification riddles. When covering *C.alsinoides* Stewart observed that this seemed like an apetalous form of *C.colorata* var. tibetica (see above) or of *C.argyrotricha*. He stated that the cleistogamous forms of Campanula are often hard to identify. He thought someone needed to cultivate the forms of this genus in the garden or a greenhouse. Excuse this all sounding complicated but unfortunately, it often is, if one is to arrive at an identification which can be relied upon - otherwise we just increase the muddle and confusion -- from Chadwell ji. On 5 December 2017 at 07:42, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "akshay prashar" <[email protected]> > Date: 05-Dec-2017 12:38 AM > Subject: [efloraofindia:283023] Dear sir please help me to identify the > following species > To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > Cc: > > Respected member, > > please help me to identify the following species > > Species for Identification - > > loaction - Deothachi ,Mandi District,Himachal Pradesh > > Altitude- 2800-3200m > > Date 12- August-2017 > *Thanks & Regards* > Akshay Prashar > > > <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IUa1ifir3FE/WiWc_3TpS1I/AAAAAAAAAko/bZ5gx2aciQIY1i6am3iV1vUhdel3KeMKgCLcBGAs/s1600/WP_20170919_12_23_00_Pro.jpg> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
