Dear Saroj You certainly like to make it difficult to identify a plant. You have ignored what I advised about taking many more images per specimen of a range of parts of the plant, which would greatly help the identification process, providing a reference for future users of efI. You only photographed the fruits of this Clematis plus a leaflet (albeit an underneath shot as well) but not leaf nor base of leaves where they meet stem nor habit, nor habitat.. It is like being asked to say what is the picture in a jigsaw puzzle, with most of the important pieces missing.
How can I help, when my advice is not followed? I have been ignored/dismissed. I have repeated my advice many times. Why should I continue? I bang my head against a brick-wall...... *I* but not many others, could probably come up with a likely identification of this Clematis from just what you have provided but why should I go to all the effort and trouble, when you will not set an example for others to follow? And continue to make it much more difficult and time-consuming. *It is quality not quantity which counts. What is the good of being the 'largest' data-base of a particular category, if this data-base contains the 'largest' number of misidentified species?* Without a strictly limited number of individuals like myself, with unique knowledge either of genera or regional floras, efI will continue to be littered with *misidentified* images. I have spent (and largely wasted) more than 30 years building up what appears to be an-rivalled level of knowledge of Himalayan flora as a whole, particularly flora of the NW Himalaya, yet despite "bending over backwards" offering to help, free-of-charge, Indian botanists, not one has shown any interest. I recollect approaching the then Director of the Botanical Survey of India (in the mid-1980s) offering to jointly collaborate with Indian botanists on an up-to-date flora for Ladakh - I was told that this was for 'Indian' botanists. Well, I have patiently waited for more than 30 years, yet no such flora has been forthcoming. I worked hard, in serious ill-health, from September 2016 to March 2017, attempting to advise eFI, yet I was completely ignored (not to mention insulted by a senior figure). We have an expression in the UK, "You can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink". Senior figures in eFI are "in denial" - unwilling to listen. It makes no sense for me to continue. On 29th September Mr Garg posted: Sh. Chris Chadwell - Thanks for his wonderful contributions. Dear members, As and when I encounter his threads while updating efi site, it is a pleasant feeling to be associated with him for a while. It always reminds me of his wonderful contributions & guidance for building of efloraofindia. I knew that he was in great pain and despite that he contributed a lot. Although he is no longer with us, but his name will always remain *etched in efloraofindia* <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/about-us/subject-experts> & in the memory of our members & others who get benefitted in future due to his contributions. *When I first read this, sounding, if it had been posted in the UK, that I had actually "passed away" i.e. was dead, I smiled and noted the complimentary comments. Perhaps it would be like reading an obituary or words read at a funeral, which are always positive. Were they really meant? The telling fact is that not one member posted as a follow-up. It would be reasonable to conclude that efI as a whole would prefer I did 'depart'. The only smart course of action for me is to comply with this sentiment.* *FAIR ENOUGH, eFI has chosen to throw away, not only the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to improve (which it urgently needs to) and move up to 'international'* *standards but even more.* *I cannot beat those in denial....... So this will be my final post. What a waste.* -- On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 11:59:09 AM UTC, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: > Dear Members, > > Location: Nagarkot, Nepal > Date: 12 December 2017 > Altitude: 6800 ft. > > Clematis ... ! ??? > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
