OK, thanks Garg ji. Regards. Dinesh On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Dinesh ji. > No flora gives keys based on fruit shape (that means it can not be much > relied upon). Even than to me these fruits look more globular rather than > ovoid. > > Quoting again from *efi thread* > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20AND$20rhomboidea/indiantreepix/8sYPclpzsew> > : > Differences between these two species is mainly based on whether spines on > the capsule is glabrous (Triumfetta rhomboidea) or with a line of spreading > hairs on the dorsal side (Triumfetta pentandra). ON going through the posts > in efi I find it is very difficult to check this with naked eyes. > Other factor is the number of stamen in the flowers, about which different > sources talk about differently as below: > > > > Triumfetta rhomboidea > > Triumfetta pentandra > > Flora of Pakistan > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=133837>: > > Stamens mostly 15, rarely fewer but not less than 10 > > Stamens mostly 5, rarely up to 10 > > BSI Flora of India > <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3563&type=3>: > > Stamens 8 - 15 > > Stamens 5 (rarely up to 10). > > Flora of China > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013664> > > Stamens 10 > > Not found > > Flora of North America > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D1%26taxon_id%3D200013664&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGrwLBcDyrLp8UG9KVvX3YYJYPmFA> > > > Stamens 10–15 > > Not found > > Flora of Zimbabwe > <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/species.php?species_id=138700> > > > Not mentioned > <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/species.php?species_id=138750> > > Stamens usually 5 > > Most of our postings show 10 stamen. *In view, I feel that we should take > all these posts as Triumfetta rhomboidea and not Triumfetta pentandra. * > > > > On 6 January 2018 at 11:40, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Garg ji, let us wait for one more seconding. To me this plant is >> *pentandra*. The fruits are not spherical. >> I strongly believe the number of stamens are not decisive characteristic. >> In *pentandra*, I find the stamens to be "very rarely exactly 5", rather >> are most often more than 5". >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:40 AM, JM Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think images should be of *Triumfetta rhomboidea* as stamen appears >>> to be 10 as per discussions & keys in *efi thread* >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Triumfetta$20AND$20rhomboidea/indiantreepix/8sYPclpzsew> >>> >>> On Sunday, 3 May 2009 15:05:51 UTC+5:30, Suresh wrote: >>>> >>>> This plant in flower is a beauty to watch. >>>> It has flowers in terminal racemes and then yellow flowers in axillary >>>> clusters as well. >>>> The former are male and latter are female. Am I right? >>>> >>>> Xanthium strumarium, Sonepat, Haryana. >>>> >>>> My ID may not be correct, as I have always been a learner. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Suresh C Sharma >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
