Thank you Mr.Garg / Ashwini Ji ! Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:45 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Ashwini ji. > I know no one knows about this plant better than you with in depth > analysis. > > On 29-Jan-2018 7:51 PM, "Ashwini Bhatia" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I will like to agree with Saroj ji as the some characteristics such as >> blunt leaves, hairy petiole and truncated stigma point to *V. canescens*. >> But this is a very confusing species and I am still struggling to establish >> the two species found in Dharamshala. If we follow FOC, this could very >> well be the *V. pilosa* (FOC doesn't describe *V. canescens*): >> >> 18. *Viola pilosa* Blume, Catalogus. 57. 1823. >> >> 匍匐堇菜 pu fu jin cai >> >> *Viola pogonantha* W. W. Smith; *V. serpens* Wallich ex Gingins; *V. >> serpens* subsp. *gurhwalensis* W. Becker;* V. serpens* var. >> * pseudoscotophylla* H. Boissieu. >> >> Herbs perennial, acaulescent or with very short stem. Rhizome erect or >> obliquely ascending, 3-5 cm × 1.5-4 mm; internodes conspicuous. Stolon >> elongated, slender, glabrous, with evenly scattered leaves. Leaves nearly >> basal; *stipules mostly free, brown or green, lanceolate, margin long or >> shortly fimbriate-dentate*, apex long acuminate; petioles nearly as long >> as blades or lower ones much longer than blades, densely appressed hirsute, >> more densely hairy in upper part; *leaf blade greenish on both surfaces, >> ovate or narrowly ovate*, 2-6 × 1-3 cm, sparsely white stiffly hairy, >> more densely so along veins abaxially, base narrowly and deeply sinuate, >> lateral auricles conspicuous, margin densely and shallowly obtusely >> dentate, apex caudate-acuminate or acute. *Flowers purplish or white, >> medium-sized; pedicels usually exceeding leaves, sparsely puberulous or >> subglabrous, 2-bracteolate above middle; bracteoles linear*. Sepals >> lanceolate, 6-7.5 × ca. 2.5 mm, apex acute, basal auricles 2-2.5 mm, >> outside usually sparsely white puberulous, margin ciliate, apex remotely >> and shallowly dentate. Petals oblong-obovate, base narrower, *lateral >> ones bearded*, *anterior one shorter*, inside deep-colored veined; spur >> saccate, 2-2.5 mm, usually sparsely puberulous; spur of 2 anterior stamens >> ca. 1.5 mm, angular. Ovary usually puberulous; *styles clavate, base >> slightly geniculate, gradually thickened upward; stigmas ± flat, not >> margined, very inconspicuously short beaked in front, with smaller stigma >> hole at tip of beak.* Capsule subglobose, 5-10 mm, puberulous or >> glabrous. Seeds with dotted protuberances on surface, conspicuously >> appendaged on lower lateral side. Fl. Feb-Apr, fr. May-Sep. 2*n* = 20. >> >> Mountain forests, grasslands, roadsides; 800-3000 m. W Guangxi, Guizhou, >> Sichuan, SE Xizang, Yunnan [Afghanistan, Bhutan, India, Indonesia, Kashmir, >> Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Thailand]. >> >> *In FRPS (51: 90. 1991), the name Viola canescens Wallich was misapplied >> to this species.* >> >> >> The question of stigma shapes and stipules doesn't take us far also. The >> truncated stigma in the flower above is *inconspicuously short beaked* >> as mentioned in FOC. I am attaching old photos to support this. The >> stipules are fimbriate, attaching another photo. Flowers purplish to white >> is true, attaching photos. Anterior petal is shorter, see photo. That >> leaves us with the question that if this is *V. pilosa* then what >> distinguishes it from *V. canescens*. >> >> >> According to Polunin and Stainton, *Viola canescens* is: >> >> Distinguished by its minutely and densely grey-haired leaves (hence >> *canescens*; Latin for white or hoary) and leaf-stalks. Flowers pale >> violet and often paler at centre, c. 1cm across, with a short blunt spur; >> *sepals >> hairy*. *Leaves ovate-heart-shaped to kidney-shaped with a blunt apex*; >> blade rather thick, and covered with grey hairs; leaf-stalks with dense >> down-curved hairs; *stipules lanceolate, fringed, often brown*. Runners >> usually present. Capsules hairy. >> >> >> And *Viola pilosa* is: >> >> Similar to V. canscens but with lilac flowers, *leaf-blades narrower and >> longer, ovate-lanceolate, acute to long-pointed*, with thin white hairs, >> or almost hairless above. Flowers 1-1.5cm; upper petals normally with hairs >> at the base; *stigma 3-lobed, beaked*. *Stipules entire or toothed, not >> fringed*. Capsules hairy or hairless. >> >> >> Following them, the sample in question is *V. canescens*. Referring to >> other material such as BSI or stigma shapes, we will have more confusion. >> >> >> *In such cases, which is the authority to follow? Who has the final say? >> If the genus has been revised, where can we see the published results?* >> >> Please advise. >> >> >> Many thanks and regards, >> >> Ashwini >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 29 January 2018 at 18:05, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Why not *Viola pilosa* Blume >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa> >>> ? >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> Date: 15 January 2018 at 23:50 >>> Subject: Viola canescens Wall. ??? >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. 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