Dear Giby, Thanks a lot for your response and validation of id. I always say that identification with photograph may not be always 100 % correct. Whatever name we give is just a lead and it needs further literature verification with actual plant specimen/ Herbarium. As you rightly pointed out plant identification needs critical observation with real specimen.
With regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research, The University of Mississippi, Oxford, MS-38677, USA. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Smilax004 <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all, > > In M. frontosa the flowers are thick and densely arranged whereas, in > M bellila (the old name was M. laxa/M. frontosa var. laxa) the flowers > are arranged loose/lax. > If you get the specimen, while brushing through the leaves and if you > feel rough hairs on the leaves you can be sure of that as M frontosa > but if there are small smooth hairs that is M.bellila. > > In most of the ecology text books and other introductory books it has > been mentioned as M. frontosa only. That had given an impression that > there is only one species that is M.frontosa. > > Please be more cautious when deal with minute characters. Taxonomy is > interesting but it should be taken as a serious subject because it is > mostly based on minute characters and need your discretion to reach a > valid id. > > Do refer a valid flora, I would like to emphasis not e-flora. I say > this because we found lots of mistake in many of the e floras that > might happened while copying the old literature in to e-format. > Unless you are thorough with the original description. You never find/ > understand the mistake. > We had this problem all throughout when we were trying to make a key > for plants for farmers and layman. > > Here the picture is of M.bellila. Vijayashankar was correct. He might > have handled several individals of this species from different parts > of India as he worked all throughout India and collected specimens > from different parts. He he may not go wrong. > > Regards, > Giby > > > > > > On Apr 26, 9:40 am, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > > A reply: > > "Its ofcourse M.frondosa...absolutely no doubt for me...if needed i may > post > > the photos of 2 coloured varieties of the same grown in Western ghats > > Thank You > > Dr Hari Venkatesh" > > > > On 25 April 2010 11:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. > > > > > Earlier relevant feedback: > > > “These are not leaves. *This is the special feature of Mussaenda > bellila*, > > > wherein the floral bracts are modified, enlarged and brightly white, > > > probably to attract pollinators as the corolla is indistinct naturally. > In > > > Malayalam it is known as 'Vellila' means 'white leaf'.” from > Vijayasankar > > > ji. > > > > > “In Mussaenda, it is the sepals that get modified into coloured leaf > > > > > like structures and not the bracts..out of 5 sepals present in it one > > > gets modified into coloured structure either white or red > > > *..this plant > > > is Mussaenda frondosa* of the family Rubiaceae..” from Dr. Hari. > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: raghu ananth <[email protected]> > > > Date: 22 March 2010 22:25 > > > Subject: [efloraofindia:30508] White leaves | id request 22Mar2010AR01 > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > White leaves - As always I wonder, is this odd white leaves because of > a > > > disease ? chlorophyll deficiency? Will the leaf survive like as long as > > > its siblings. > > > Anyway, to me it appears like a natures handiwork. > > > > > Kumaraparvatha hills, South Canara, Karnataka > > > Western Ghats > > > 26 Mar 2009, 10.38AM > > > > > Basic info: Leaf size - 4 inches, height -10 inches, Shape:- cordate, > > > entire, acuminate > > > > > Date/Time-26 Mar 2009, 10.38AM > > > > > Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Kumaraparvatha hills, South Canara, > > > Karnataka, 12"39' 36.77" N 75" 40' 49.68 E, elev 4000ft approx > > > > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild / Western ghats > > > > > P > > > > > lant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- > > > > > Height/Length-approx - 8-10 inches > > > > > Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Shape -cordate, entire, acuminate > > > > > Inflorescence Type/ Size- > > > > > Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- > > > > > Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- > > > > > Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Three white > leaves > > > > > Regards > > > Raghu > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. 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