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http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3258&type=4 Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Chris, > > Thank you for the elaborated insight information. > And it is so difficult for beginners like me. > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 12:38 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: 22 October 2017 at 09:33 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:279578] Re: Impatiens amplexicaulis Edgew. Please >> verify?? >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Re: Saroj's guess of *Impatiens glandulifera* kindly check AND READ >> THROUGH ALL THE CONTENT OF: https://sites.google.com/a/shp >> a.org.uk/fowh/impatiens-1 >> ALSO: https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/fowh/how-not-to-attem >> pt-to-identify-plants INDEED ALL OF MY 'FLOWERS OF THE NORTH-WEST >> HIMALAYA - A VIRTUAL GUIDE: https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/fowh/. >> >> *I wonder how many Impatiens in the Himalaya have stipular glands?* Any >> characteristic of foliage which is either diagnostic of a particular >> species or can help to distinguish between a number of species, when a >> specimen is not in flower is especially useful is such a challenging genus >> identification-wise. It would be helpful if members of eFI (after >> carefully digesting ALL the content of my 'virtual' guide mentioned >> above) who can access colonies of *I.glandulifera* in the Himalaya, >> could check if reddish roots at lower notes do exhibit an antiseptic odour >> as in the UK. >> >> HAPPY READING... I CONSIDER MY 'VIRTUAL' GUIDE (WHICH IS IN ITS EARLY >> STAGES) SHOULD BE *ESSENTIAL* BACKGROUND READING FOR ALL EFLORAOFINDIA >> MEMBERS, NOT JUST CONTRIBUTORS OF IMAGES. >> >> As for *I.glandulifera*, as far as I know, this species is not recorded >> for Nepal. Hooker's record published in 1842 was probably an error. >> Hooker's 'Flora of British India' was a decent effort for its time but >> woefully out-of-date (from the 19th Century) nowadays. It is littered with >> errors (not to mention many species not recognised at that time) - hardly >> surprising how little explored and studied India's flora was at that time. >> To rely on it too heavily is unwise. I have seen recent pages posted of >> Crassulaceae from Chowdhery & Wadwha's 'Flora of Himachal Pradesh Analysis' >> ...(1984) which uses the 19th Century nomenclature and taxonomic treatment >> of Hooker; it is in fact little more than a ABBREVIATED COPY OF CONTENT OF >> HOOKER'S WORK. *I have no idea what 'Analysis' means in this respect. >> I do not possess a copy of their 'flora'. Perhaps a member can explain? >> From the Crassulaceae pages, it seems one would be better of just referring >> to Hooker (his Flora is available on-line) BUT recognising just how >> out-of-date it is...... I hope that Chowdhery & Wadwha gave due >> acknowledgement of the source of their incredibly brief descriptions - they >> certainly do not come from observations in Himachal Pradesh themselves nor >> fresh pressed specimens in Indian herbaria collected by Indian botanists >> since Independence - as one might reasonably image in a genuine 'Flora'.* >> >> When making a suggestion for an identification, it really is important >> for eFI members to check whether the suggested species 'fits' in terms of >> prior records for a country/region and altitudinal range. I am dismayed >> that few owners of 'Flowers of the Himalaya' EVER check this information. >> Yes, significant extensions of geographic and altitudinal ranges do occur >> but not very often. If e.g. what a reader of this 'guide' (it is NOT a >> 'Flora') thinks they have 'matched' to a particular species does not >> 'tally', in terms of where it grew then probably, they need to look more >> closely, as in all probability, what they think will be a misidentification. >> >> Data-bases littered with misidentifications, whether they are >> printed check-lists or floras or on-line ones, create MAJOR problems. The >> objective should always be to ENRICH not ENLARGE a data-base, whether >> on-line or a traditional herbarium. What matters is not how large the >> number of specimens there are in a herbarium or entries in an on-line >> data-base but its QUALITY i.e. how many are RELIABLY IDENTIFIED. Nowadays >> too many people uncritically accept what they read or see. When one >> searches/'google's the name of a plant species DO NOT TOO READILY BELIEVE >> THE ACCOMPANYING IMAGES ARE OF THE *GENUINE* ARTICLE - I CAN ASSURE YOU >> THAT A SIGNIFICANT PROPORTION ARE NOT. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 7, 2014 at 9:08:24 AM UTC+1, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: >> >>> Dear Mr. Garg, >>> >>> Date: 24 JULY, 2014 >>> >>> Location: On the way to Kalinchok, Dolakha District, East Nepal >>> >>> Altitude : 9000 ft. >>> >>> Thank you and best wishes! >>> >>> saroj >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
