Thanks, Lalithamba ji

On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:46 PM Lalithamba Avadhanam, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thank You Garg ji,
> It is Hibiscs hirtus only as per my opinion, It is up to you only
> thank you
> regards
> A.Lalithamba
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 4:42 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lalithamba ji,
>> I am waiting for your final views in the matter.
>>
>> On Thu 19 Apr, 2018, 3:26 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji.
>>> Hope something useful comes out of these discussions.
>>> Due to confusion in Regional Floras & BSI Flora of India, it is sure
>>> that there is a long standing confusion between the two.
>>> Finally I think we have to rely on Malvaceae of Southern Peninsular
>>> India: A Taxonomic Monograph
>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=XhVI5BluzCUC&pg=PA96&lpg=PA96&dq=Hibiscus+hirtus+%2B+monograph+of+indian&source=bl&ots=aHVIaPCQmk&sig=IVANi2I0HBHe8ccDDALptE_0zw8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivzYjXgsbaAhUILI8KHTpfCWoQ6AEISDAJ>
>>>  (I
>>> think published after BSI Flora of India).
>>> From perusing this, you will agree with id of Hibiscus micranthus
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/hibiscus/hibiscus-micranthus>
>>>  (which
>>> also has tri-lobed leaves and plant is pubescent and leaf size larger than
>>> 4 cm)
>>> Based on this, colour of the flower only decides the species among these
>>> two, as per the keys.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 April 2018 at 14:26, Lalithamba Avadhanam <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I firmly believe it is Hibiscus hirtus only; be cause we have
>>>> observed the fresh specimen; some leaves are tri lobed; (H.micranthus never
>>>> bear tri-lobed leaves,)epicalyx are longer than calyx; the entire plant is
>>>> softly pubescent, the leaf size is larger than 3cm, (As per Flora of
>>>> A.P.by Pullaiah, FPM by Gamble)
>>>> thank you
>>>> regards
>>>> A.Lalithamba
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:41 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Lalithamba ji,
>>>>> Do you still have doubts of this being Hibiscus micranthus
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/hibiscus/hibiscus-micranthus>
>>>>>  on
>>>>> account of filiform epicalyx and calyx divided upto the middle as per keys
>>>>> in BSI Flora of India
>>>>> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=5684&type=11>
>>>>>  ?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: 30 March 2018 at 13:03
>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:291433] Submission of Hibiscus hirtus
>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> I have observed Hibiscus hirtus placed in efi is Hibiscus micranthus
>>>>> (Ref. eflora karnataka; again the description given does not match; It is 
>>>>> a
>>>>> rather rare plant; leaves trilobate; hence I am adding description with
>>>>> images captured in wild at Velugonda hills of Eastern ghats
>>>>> Hibiscus hirtus L., Sp. Pl. 694. 1753.
>>>>> Ver.names: Lesser mallow orange (Eng.) Nityamalli నిత్యమల్లె  (Tel.)
>>>>> Family: Malvaceae
>>>>> Description:
>>>>> Herbs, perennial, up to 2 m tall; stems much branched,
>>>>> appressed-stellate-setulose. Leaves alternate; petiole 0.5-4cm long; 
>>>>> lamina
>>>>> ovate-lanceolate, 4-6 × 2-3 cm, shallowly 3 lobed, sparsely to fairly
>>>>> densely stellate-hispid on both surfaces, apex acute, margin serrate, base
>>>>> obtuse. Flowers 1-2cm in diam.,  white; peduncle articulated just below 
>>>>> the
>>>>> calyx. Epicalyx lobes 6-7, 5-10 mm long, filiform, stiff. Calyx
>>>>> stellate-setulose; lobes up to 8-9 × 1•5 mm., linear-lanceolate. Corolla
>>>>> 1.5-2cm across, ovate,  white. Staminal column shorter than petals. Ovary
>>>>> globose; style divided above the stamina column, stigmas 5, capitate.
>>>>> Capsule 9 mm in diam., subglobose, minutely pubescent. Seeds reniform, 
>>>>> with
>>>>> white silky floss.
>>>>> Habitat & location: Rare in hills.
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> regards
>>>>> A.Lalithamba
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