got your point
thanks

ushadi

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Sharmila Punde <
[email protected]> wrote:

> "and you will notice
> in reply they get the link to the page
> like you did
>
> that's the purpose of the last ten+ years of endeavors
> of this group and making of the website with species pages and providing
> links to keys etc"
>
> Ref 👆 Definitely Ushadi, it was always the case for my other questions
> and it should be. But what if we encounter
> with some plant whose image/media is not owned by us and we need identify
> what the plant is? Sometimes
> my friends not able to identify them, so i have to run here to get help
> from expert. In the video location was
> not mentioned, what we can do about it?  If we have location and date, we
> do mention it.
>
> "but
> i thought it was waste of time have to look at a video
> of several minutes that had no data that we require
> nobody has that kind of time to id a plant
> thats the crux of the matter"
>
> Ref 👆 Dear Ushadi, this should not cause worry. Definitely photos are
> fast. But what if we do not have photos of some
> plant. And if someone find it time consuming they can ignore the question.
> There are many members of our site and all are
> free to not answer. My friends also could not identify it so that is the
> way it is. Question was not asked to you personally at all, trust me.
> And there was no expectation from my side that you personally should watch
> video.
>
> Regards
> Sharmila
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Many people here do that, they share photo and ask for id as per my
>> observation. "
>>
>> and you will notice
>> in reply they get the link to the page
>> like you did
>>
>> that's the purpose of the last ten+ years of endeavors
>> of this group and making of the website with species pages and providing
>> links to keys etc
>>
>> ===
>> and its voluntary on both sides
>> not obligatory
>>
>> ===
>> be well
>>
>> usha di
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> yes
>>> thanks
>>> thats is the correct way if you absolutely have to
>>>
>>> ---
>>> but
>>> i thought it was waste of time have to look at a video
>>> of several minutes that had no data that we require
>>> nobody has that kind of time to id a plant
>>> thats the crux of the matter
>>>
>>> ==
>>> yes
>>> people send in photographs they themselves have taken
>>>  for id
>>> they also include place state//district// level above sea level,
>>> cultivated or wild etc
>>> information that a true botany group needs
>>>
>>> date//season pic taken
>>>
>>> and if needed/asked for
>>> they provide more pics they have taken or more info
>>> ==
>>>
>>>
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Sharmila Punde <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ushadi,
>>>>        Please check my first mail in this thread. It contains url
>>>> towards youtube. I understand your concern.
>>>> *I have taken care of copyright issue already by posting url and not
>>>> physical film.*  Please check my first
>>>> mail in this thread. *Nothing was intended by me at all.* It was just
>>>> a simple question like any other members of our site
>>>> to get exact id of the plant which am not aware of at all. I came to
>>>> know about ixora because of film description itself.
>>>>
>>>> Like other members post photo, url was posted by me.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Sharmila
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:50 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> for those of you who would like to know:
>>>>> utube video channels are privately owned, and monetized.
>>>>> ie the channel owner make money based on number of views and number of
>>>>> subscribers.
>>>>>
>>>>> this particular video was from a channel called wildfilms india is not
>>>>> creative commons.
>>>>> with 974,387 subscribers as of now and  651,539,914 views and they
>>>>> aspire to
>>>>> and this name of the channel:      is* not a creative commons ...*...
>>>>> they do have very nice content.
>>>>> worth going there and viewing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> its website: http://wildfilmsindia.com/
>>>>> states in no uncertain terms that they own the copyright. i quote:
>>>>> "  "STOCK AND STILL FOOTAGE
>>>>>
>>>>> *We have over 50, 000 hours of material in our stock archive, with an
>>>>> original focus on South Asia, *
>>>>> *but more recently also an increasingly global content footprint. *
>>>>> *We have 750,000 stills in our archive, including 35 mm celluloid and
>>>>> digital images. *
>>>>> *We own the copyright, IPR and all marketing rights to the entire
>>>>> archive."   *
>>>>> *end quote.*
>>>>>
>>>>> we surely do not want to infringe on their copyright.
>>>>> *i am sure that was not Sharmila"s intent.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *usha di *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> do we want to be party to any kind of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:25 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharmila: just give the the url
>>>>>> or link to what you want to ask about
>>>>>> so whoever wants to see it, sees it comments and then when they are
>>>>>> done, only url remains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> plus, now that you know how to, you can go directly to our website,
>>>>>> go to i for ixora, and look up matches.
>>>>>> its easier, moe " legal" without that lag time of sending things in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when you write"
>>>>>> Not expecting to store this film in our site, is it possible? How can
>>>>>> someone make sure that other people's  media does not get cache or store 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> our site."
>>>>>> it implies now someone ie gargji will have to manually delete the
>>>>>> someone elsesw's video and replace it with its url.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so please lets be nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:22 PM, Sharmila Punde <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Ushadi, Garg Ji,
>>>>>>>          Not my film. It is film from WildFilmsIndia youtube
>>>>>>> channel. It is sharable link and public link. They have their own 
>>>>>>> copyright
>>>>>>> logo at right bottom corner of the film.
>>>>>>> If we are just watching the film,  and not using commercially or not
>>>>>>> changing content then will it be tresspassing for our site?
>>>>>>> Not expecting to store this film in our site, is it possible? How
>>>>>>> can someone make sure that other people's  media does not get cache or
>>>>>>> store in our site.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Sharmila
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sharmila
>>>>>>>> is this your own utube video
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> if not
>>>>>>>> are you
>>>>>>>> and thru you
>>>>>>>> are we tresspassing on someone"s copyright?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we dont invite trouble.
>>>>>>>> please check before reposting other peoples photos.or videos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:32 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pl. check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/si
>>>>>>>>> te/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/ixora
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue 24 Jul, 2018, 12:58 AM Sharmila Punde, <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>        Please help identify ixora species on which bflys are
>>>>>>>>>> nectoring, in the following link-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiFzvlLF_4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Sharmila
>>>>>>>>>>
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