thats the confusion does plant list say their molecular //genetic analysis shows same genes?
the genes that produce three leaf pattern with its unique venation must be different from genes that produce five leaf pattern with a very different venation. and the kand of the two type must be of different nutritonal or medicinal value i just hope plant list and so kew, mobot, nybg et al will resolve such issues across the board i am sure some one somewhere had done molecular analysis. any way you current plant has three leaves i wish you would see that their veins are different from the true pentaphylla leaves. usha di On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:14 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you very much Viplav ji for the information and clarity. > Usha di, this species of *Dioscorea*, has either 3 or 5 leaflets; one of > its synonym is *Dioscorea triphylla*. > Regards. > Dinesh > > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:32 PM Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> very apt and appropraite information, Viplav, thank you >> >> I find that often what Dr/vaidya Zala write as gujrarati names of >> medicinal plants do not match with what i find in Bapalal Vaidyas book . >> and sometimes not even in Dr. Patel's guj forest flora etc. His must be >> truly local vernacular names that never got in any academic books. >> yes the વેણી વેલ sounds like a gajara of flower that women use ie વેણી. >> >> Besides that >> I do not really see five leaflets even after enlarging, DInesh. >> Am i missing something? >> usha di >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:21 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Viplav ji and Dinesh ji >>> >>> On Wed 10 Oct, 2018, 7:43 PM [email protected], <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> From what I gather, the name *'Vaj no kand*' was documented by George >>>> Alexander Gammie in his paper "A note on the plants used during famines and >>>> seasons of scarcity in the Bombay Presidency" published in the Records of >>>> the Botanical Survey of India, vol. II, Calcutta, 1903. Have attached the >>>> relevant pages herewith. This name appears to be used for other >>>> *Dioscorea* species as well, not only in Surat district (Gujarat) but >>>> also in the former Khandesh district (Maharashtra). It would be spelt in >>>> Gujarati as વજનું કંદ or વજ કંદ. Also known as નાનો જંગલી કંદ. >>>> >>>> I am not acquainted with the other names but વેણી વેલ is an evocative >>>> epithet since it is descriptive of the inflorescences (likened to braided >>>> hair). Most vernacular names of *Dioscorea* spp. refer to the tubers. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, Viplav >>>> >>>> El mié., 10 oct. 2018 a las 15:44, Dinesh Valke (< >>>> [email protected]>) escribió: >>>> >>>>> Found few more names, I am sure these are not common, may be limited >>>>> to certain regions of Gujarat ... >>>>> >>>>> હુરો huro ... વનસ્પતીઓ ના ગુજરાતી તથા બોટનીકલ નામ ની યાદી. (વૈધ >>>>> કે.જે.ઝાલા) >>>>> વેણી વેલ veni vel ... thanks to Jalamsinh Vala for help with this name >>>>> in facebook >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465237517322457&set=gm.563571757434059&type=3&theater> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:59 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear friends, and Viplav ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please validate following names for Dioscorea pentaphylla: >>>>>> વાજ નો કંદ vaj no kand ... The Famine Foods Database >>>>>> <https://www.purdue.edu/hla/sites/famine-foods/famine_food/dioscorea-pentaphylla/> >>>>>> નાનો જંગલી કંદ nano jungli kand ... Biological Diversity of Gujarat >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgec.gujarat.gov.in%2Fdownloads%2FBiologicalDiversityContents.pdf&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF9y8kc5X1Yr89R-2YGjW1YUM9rBw> >>>>>> ... current version of PDF seems to have shortened content - we no longer >>>>>> find the names' list which was found earlier. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> > -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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