Thanks Garg ji and Tapas ji. I believe the posted plant is *Acacia nilotica* subsp. *nilotica *... not far from my guess* Acacia nilotica subsp. tomentosa *(not accepted widely). The posted plant is in vicinity of a large stream. I have read that the matured trees of *Acacia nilotica* subsp. *nilotica* shed their thorns / spines. Here is page of a book - The CABI Encyclopedia of Forest Trees <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=cBf4AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=Deeply+constricted+subsp.+tomentosa&source=bl&ots=Tk5J7ws2Mx&sig=W1f9qe0h6jR9W8SsVHlCJMxmwp8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicgMvjiYPfAhVBpY8KHRHRBacQ6AEwBnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=Deeply%20constricted%20subsp.%20tomentosa&f=false> ... I hope it is available for reading. There is another reference page at Tropical Forages <http://www.tropicalforages.info/key/forages/Media/Html/entities/acacia_nilotica.htm> .
Regards. Dinesh On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:57 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Tapas ji > > On Sun 2 Dec, 2018, 9:05 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In that case another introduced species unknown to me. >> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 21:02 J.M. Garg <[email protected] wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Tapas ji. >>> I checked both the species, but not seem to match as per the following: >>> >>> https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/acacia_dealbata_subsp._dealbata.htm >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_dealbata >>> >>> >>> https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/acacia_decurrens.htm >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_decurrens >>> >>> http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Acacia~decurrens >>> http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Acacia+decurrens >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 02:29, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In absence of spines and prickles this should be a member of Acacia >>>> proper, and again may be an introduced species. I am knowing two such >>>> introduced species, now naturalized in certain areas, both devoid of >>>> spines, A. decurrens and A. dealbata and having the heads arranged in >>>> panicles and this is likely to be one of them, possibly A. dealbata as the >>>> leaflets are not sharply decurrent at the base. >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 00:34 Dinesh Valke <[email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks very much Tapas ji for the information. >>>>> I read the description for *Vachellia nilotica* subsp. *kraussiana* >>>>> at Plantz Africa. >>>>> <http://pza.sanbi.org/vachellia-nilotica-subsp-kraussiana> >>>>> It say the plant has long spines. >>>>> >>>>> I thought *Vachellia nilotica* subsp.* tomentosa* bears no spines; >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully next time when I go to the site will get pictures of its >>>>> pods. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:34 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If the spines are absent then this will not be *Vachellia. * >>>>>> Anyway, there is an addition to *Acacia nilotica *group in India. >>>>>> Please see the highlighted portion of the attachment. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:10 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think *Vachellia nilotica* subsp. *tomentosa* does not bear >>>>>>> spines. >>>>>>> Hope someone validates the ID; not sure whether the posted pictures >>>>>>> suffice for validation. >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 3:37 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also feel closer to images at >>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/vachellia/acacia-nilotica-subsp-indica >>>>>>>> Yes absence of spines is puzzling. >>>>>>>> May be we check some descriptions regarding this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed 7 Nov, 2018, 9:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: ... gully trail, Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F45647661731%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHWp0l9TuyFMp53SwOfHYZPEgPztA> >>>>>>>>> Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park Jodhpur >>>>>>>>> *Date*: October 24, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 300 m (980 feet) >>>>>>>>> asl >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> ¿ *Vachellia* ? >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>> I am not sure whether this tree is any *Vachellia* ... my guess: >>>>>>>>> *Vachellia >>>>>>>>> nilotica* subsp. *tomentosa*. >>>>>>>>> I could not see any thorns. Leaves bipinnate, paripinnate. I see a >>>>>>>>> gland between the lowermost pair of pinnae. Please help validate the >>>>>>>>> ID to >>>>>>>>> genus level, as I could not get any closer to the tree. >>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F31779296478%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFw_wBGpyoQLWjrlcGiPNqtMfwt5w> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710740857%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGJjFCr9F2lsTF5FNxlXfWkzRPCVA> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F31779292278%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFvdY-Wqsdb27-3_P7ZkxvqoPHxNw> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710737437%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFv-avq6XcN1hRbOuOQJWFmuwbTFA> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710732207%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFTQrnyTycj_thZ6QOy8sgMk101Dg> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710729967%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEUsgbaw5ze2vwyOUXoipGbz04TlA> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which 1,00,000 >>> are directly displayed). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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