Thanks, Dinesh ji On Mon 3 Dec, 2018, 8:29 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Garg ji and Tapas ji. > > I believe the posted plant is *Acacia nilotica* subsp. *nilotica *... not > far from my guess* Acacia nilotica subsp. tomentosa *(not accepted > widely). > The posted plant is in vicinity of a large stream. > I have read that the matured trees of *Acacia nilotica* subsp. *nilotica* > shed their thorns / spines. > Here is page of a book - The CABI Encyclopedia of Forest Trees > <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=cBf4AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=Deeply+constricted+subsp.+tomentosa&source=bl&ots=Tk5J7ws2Mx&sig=W1f9qe0h6jR9W8SsVHlCJMxmwp8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicgMvjiYPfAhVBpY8KHRHRBacQ6AEwBnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=Deeply%20constricted%20subsp.%20tomentosa&f=false> > ... I hope it is available for reading. There is another reference page at > Tropical > Forages > <http://www.tropicalforages.info/key/forages/Media/Html/entities/acacia_nilotica.htm> > . > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:57 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Tapas ji >> >> On Sun 2 Dec, 2018, 9:05 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> In that case another introduced species unknown to me. >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 21:02 J.M. Garg <[email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Tapas ji. >>>> I checked both the species, but not seem to match as per the following: >>>> >>>> https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/acacia_dealbata_subsp._dealbata.htm >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_dealbata >>>> >>>> >>>> https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/acacia_decurrens.htm >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_decurrens >>>> >>>> http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Acacia~decurrens >>>> http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Acacia+decurrens >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 02:29, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In absence of spines and prickles this should be a member of Acacia >>>>> proper, and again may be an introduced species. I am knowing two such >>>>> introduced species, now naturalized in certain areas, both devoid of >>>>> spines, A. decurrens and A. dealbata and having the heads arranged in >>>>> panicles and this is likely to be one of them, possibly A. dealbata as the >>>>> leaflets are not sharply decurrent at the base. >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 00:34 Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks very much Tapas ji for the information. >>>>>> I read the description for *Vachellia nilotica* subsp. *kraussiana* >>>>>> at Plantz Africa. >>>>>> <http://pza.sanbi.org/vachellia-nilotica-subsp-kraussiana> >>>>>> It say the plant has long spines. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought *Vachellia nilotica* subsp.* tomentosa* bears no spines; >>>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully next time when I go to the site will get pictures of its >>>>>> pods. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:34 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If the spines are absent then this will not be *Vachellia. * >>>>>>> Anyway, there is an addition to *Acacia nilotica *group in India. >>>>>>> Please see the highlighted portion of the attachment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:10 AM Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think *Vachellia nilotica* subsp. *tomentosa* does not bear >>>>>>>> spines. >>>>>>>> Hope someone validates the ID; not sure whether the posted pictures >>>>>>>> suffice for validation. >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 3:37 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also feel closer to images at >>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/vachellia/acacia-nilotica-subsp-indica >>>>>>>>> Yes absence of spines is puzzling. >>>>>>>>> May be we check some descriptions regarding this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed 7 Nov, 2018, 9:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: ... gully trail, Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F45647661731%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHWp0l9TuyFMp53SwOfHYZPEgPztA> >>>>>>>>>> Rao Jodha Desert Rock Park Jodhpur >>>>>>>>>> *Date*: October 24, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 300 m (980 feet) >>>>>>>>>> asl >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> ¿ *Vachellia* ? >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>> I am not sure whether this tree is any *Vachellia* ... my guess: >>>>>>>>>> *Vachellia >>>>>>>>>> nilotica* subsp. *tomentosa*. >>>>>>>>>> I could not see any thorns. Leaves bipinnate, paripinnate. I see >>>>>>>>>> a gland between the lowermost pair of pinnae. Please help validate >>>>>>>>>> the ID >>>>>>>>>> to genus level, as I could not get any closer to the tree. >>>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F31779296478%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFw_wBGpyoQLWjrlcGiPNqtMfwt5w> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710740857%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGJjFCr9F2lsTF5FNxlXfWkzRPCVA> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F31779292278%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFvdY-Wqsdb27-3_P7ZkxvqoPHxNw> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710737437%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFv-avq6XcN1hRbOuOQJWFmuwbTFA> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710732207%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFTQrnyTycj_thZ6QOy8sgMk101Dg> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: ¿ Acacia ?] >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30710729967%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEUsgbaw5ze2vwyOUXoipGbz04TlA> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which 1,00,000 >>>> are directly displayed). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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