Ok, so it is A. hirsutus Lam. Thanks a lot to Satish ji, Vijayasankar ji, Parjanya ji, Dr. Gurcharan ji, and Gautam ji for the final ID.
regards, Rashida. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:29 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > A reply: > *"All photographs(3) belongs to Artocarpus hirsutus Lam.* There is no > doubt about it. The only reason is that the fruits are echinate (spiny) and > not smooth like that of A. lacucha and A. gomezianus and is a dominant > species in Kerala. > Gautam Upadhyay > Research Scholar > Central National Herbarium > BSI, Howrah-3" > > On 25 May 2010 17:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> *“I think it appears more like Artocarpus hirsutus.* >> The syncarp is spiny whereas in A.lakoocha it is smooth velvety. >> Let us wait for others comments. >> Recently I have noticed that Almeida's flora appears to be more >> descriptive and there are certain differences between it and the BSI Mah >> flora which I have. >> You must have checked with Almeida's what does it say about the key >> related to this? >> Dr Phadke” >> >> >> >> “As per Dr. Almeida's flora the fruit size of A. hirsutus is of a lemon. " >> ..echinate, the spines(free apices of anthocarps) about 6 mm long, >> cylindric, straight, hispid, perforate at the apex for the filiform style, >> edible. Seeds 1-2 cm long ovoid." >> >> The fruits of A.lacucha are "5-8 cm in diameter, lobulate, smooth, >> velvety, yellow, edible. Seeds oblong few, broad, about 1 cm across". >> Hence the Pics posted are of A. lacucha only. >> >> regards, >> Rashida.” >> >> >> “*I think this is Artocarpus gomezianus Wall. ex Trecul . >> * >> and there are varieties like var. lakoocha, var. gomezianus >> and a sub species- ssp. zeylanicus Jarrett . >> So the plant from rashida may be var. gomezianus. i think.” from Parjanya >> ji. >> The pictures of the fruits you posted do not look smooth,velvety,yellow. >> They look green, echinate spiny?FOI site shows some different pictures which >> match the description of Almeida >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Lakoocha.html"; >> >> "Satish ji Thanks for further information. I am not able to access the FOI >> link or the main website. *There have been two other feedbacks : Dr. >> Kunhikannan has indicated my pics are of A. hirsutus and Parjanya ji has >> indicated species of A.gometzianus.* >> *According to me the size and shape of fruit does not match A. hirsutus.*But >> it could be the one suggested by Parjanya ji. One more aspect to note is >> I have gone by the separate species A. lacucha Buch. - Ham earlier known as >> A. lakoocha Roxb.as per Dr. Almeida's flora. >> Dr Almeida's flora also has Artocarpus gomezianus Wall. ex Trecul earlier >> known by the three names as follows : A. lakoocha Roxb. var. gomeziana Wall. >> ex Trimen, A. gomezianus Worthington and A. lakoocha auct.(non. Roxb. >> 1832). Here the description is " syncarp 2-3 cm wide, sub-globose, green, >> later turning orange. " Will await your comments. >> regards, >> Rashida." >> >> ".. And in Flora of Kolhapurdistrict (p.447) by Dr. S. R. Yadav and >> Sardesai, the classification is like this- >> Leaves broadly ovate, grey pubescen beneath, fruits smooth, seeds >> compressed- >> *Artocarpus gomezianus* Wall. ex >> Trecul subsp. zeylanicus Jarrett. >> Leaves oblong, rusty tomentose beneath, fruits smooth, seeds globose-- >> *Artocarpus lakoocha* Roxb. >> * I hope, rashida's plant matches with the first one, >> * Artocarpus gomezianus Wall. ex Trecul subsp. zeylanicus Jarrett. >> Lets see for the further discussion..." from Parjanya ji. >> >> "*To me also it looks like Artocarpus hirsutus only*. The fruits are >> echinate and not smooth. (About 10-15 cm across in size?) As Vijayadas ji >> said, the inner pulp (perianth) is very sweet and edible. Its generally >> reserved by monkeys in the forest. It is a Red Listed medicinal plant by the >> way. >> With regards >> R. Vijayasankar" >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: rashida atthar <[email protected]> >> Date: 4 May 2010 20:41 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:33926] Artocarpus lacucha Buch.-Ham. >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> Saw a fruit in the large tree of Artocarpus lacucha Buch.- Ham.at >> Aanashi WLS, Karnataka in the last week of April,'10. >> >> regards, >> Rashida. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> All the post budget analysis and implications Sign up >> now.<http://news.in.msn.com/moneyspecial/budget2010/> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, >> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg >> For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- >> Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, > Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg > For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Efloraofindia: > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.
