Thank you Mr. Garg ! Dear Mr. Zala : Mussaenda pubescens and its SYN. are not listed in Nepal.
Saroj Kasaju On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:09 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Tabish ji. > To me Saroj ji's plant matches with illustration at > > http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=6978&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=1&size=0 > > Also matches with the keys between two closely related species from Flora > of China > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121358>: > > 5 (4) > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121358#KEY-1-4> > Stems > sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 > mm. 19 *M. macrophylla* > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242333234> > + Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules 7-10 > × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 *M. treutleri* > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242333246> > > From the keys, it is evident that hairs on stem play a key role in > differentiating these two closely related species. *Here the stem is > clearly not sericeous with appressed indument. It appears to be villous.* > > Going through Flora of Bhutan also supports this as *calyx lobes appear > to be closer to filiform and tapering from the base rather than oblong > oblanceolate or oblong elliptic, tappering from middle. Length of the calyx > lobes and corolla tube seems to be quite variable as per the measurement > given- thus there co-relation may not be correct.* > > Mussaenda macrophylla is different as per high resolution specimen and > other posts by Saroj ji: > https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fcollections.nmnh.si.edu% > 2Fmedia%2Findex.php%3Firn%3D12167172 > Mussaenda macrophylla > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/N61x1-265-I> > Mussaenda macrophylla Wall. ?? > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/KzICY035d2E> > > Flora of China > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242333246> > further states "This species is similar to *Mussaenda macrophylla*, and > in the protologue *M. treutleri* was explicitly separated from plants > commonly called *M. macrophylla*, both in the wild and in cultivation; in > fact, the protologue noted that *M. treutleri* was already widely > distributed in cultivation at that time incorrectly under the other name. > *Mussaenda > treutleri* subsequently has apparently still been confused with or > combined with *M. macrophylla*, including by recent authors (e.g., > Springate et al., Fl. Bhutan 2(2): 783. 1999). *Mussaenda treutleri* is > here circumscribed somewhat differently than by H. H. Hsue and H. Wu (in > FRPS 71(1): 301. 1999): the plants from montane Yunnan and adjacent regions > with broad, generally persistent stipules were separated by Stapf from *M. > macrophylla* and included in *M. treutleri*, and this distinction is > followed here." > > > > > On 9 August 2018 at 23:55, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There seems to be some discrepancy in the description of Mussaenda >> treutleri at FOC and elsewhere. >> According to Bhutan Biodiversity Portal >> <https://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6300>, the sepals of Mussaenda >> treutleri are described as: >> " Calyx lobes filiform, tappering from base, 4-8 x 1mm, pilose. Corolla >> tube 1.6-3.2cm, distinctly widened upwards, sparsely pilose;" >> sepals of Mussaenda macrophylla >> <https://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6299>are described as >> "Calyx lobes oblong oblanceolate or oblong elliptic, tappering from >> middle, 7-15 x 1-3mm, pilose. Corolla tube 2-2.8cm, pilose upwards" >> At India Biodiversity Portal >> <https://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/244658>, the calyx lobes of >> M. treutleri are described as >> "Calyx lobes to 1 cm long, linear-lanceolate" >> I differentiated the two species based on the length of sepals compared >> to that of flower-tube. Going by the above description, the sepals of >> Mussaenda >> treutleriare much smaller than the flower-tube and very narrow. Sepals of >> M. macrophylla are larger (less than about half the flower-tube) and >> broader. >> Based on the above, I would assume that this plant is Mussaenda >> macrophylla. >> FOC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242333246>described >> sepals of M. treutleri as "lobes lanceolate, ligulate, or oblanceolate, >> 7-18 × 3-4 mm" 1.8 cm sepal length looks much larger than that in the >> other two descriptions. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 2:48 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I also agree with Shrikant ji for *Mussaenda treutleri *as per >>> >>> http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=6978&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=1&size=0 >>> http://www.saintlucianplants.com/cultivated/musstreu/musstreu.html >>> >>> Here are the keys between two closely related species from Flora of >>> China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121358>: >>> >>> 5 (4) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121358#KEY-1-4> >>> Stems >>> sericeous with appressed indument; stipules 5-8 × 4-5 mm; calyx lobes 4-11 >>> mm. 19 *M. macrophylla* >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242333234> >>> + Stems villous or hirsute with widely spreading trichomes; stipules >>> 7-10 × 6-12 mm; calyx lobes 7-18 mm. 29 *M. treutleri* >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242333246> >>> >>> >>> Images in Flowers of India >>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Treutler%27s%20Mussaenda.html> >>> looks different and may be of some other species. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>> Date: 26 July 2018 at 15:55 >>> Subject: SK1322 26 JUL 2018 >>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" < >>> jmga...@gmail.com>, Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> Dear Members, >>> >>> Location: Osho, Balaju, Raniban' Nepal >>> Altitude : 4600 ft. >>> Date: 7 June 2018 >>> Habit : Wild >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which 1,00,000 >>> are directly displayed). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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