---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 21:02 Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:317827] Veronica stewartii from Kashmir To: David Merrick <[email protected]> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Bubai Bera <[email protected]>
Thanks a lot dear David, that should help a lot. Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 8:47 PM David Merrick <[email protected]> wrote: > I've attached descriptions of persica/agrestis/polita from 3 European > flora. > > Sell3 = Sell & Murrell Flora of Great Britain and Ireland vol 3 (2009) > > FBI = Flora of the British Isles ed 3 (Tutin and Clapham) (1989) > > FEU = Flora Europaea - slightly older but has a more European embrace. > > As you'll have spotted, Sell3 is the most recent. > > I've also attached keys from Sell vol 3 and Stace ed 3 (2010). Note that > Stace ed 4 has just come out now and probably shouldn't differ in the key. > Stace is what Botanists here use and carry about, as it all fits in 1 > portable volume by having good keys supplemented by brief descriptions of > further characteristics. > > And I've attached a visual veronica sheet "veronica-field-speedwells" I > made for the Edinburgh facebook botany group using photos from around > about, which may assist too but will be just the floristic races that are > around me. > > David > > 0131 333 2170 (try first) > 07877 316 592 (try second) > > > On 2019-03-02 14:51, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > > Dear David Merrick > It will really help if you could forward description (and possibly key > separating the three species) of Veronica polita and V. agrestis, both of > which also occur in Europe. It may help in sorting our specimens. V. > stewartii which Pennell described as new species in 1943, replacing > hitherto known Himalayan specimens of V. hederifolia, is quite distinct, as > can be seen from herbarium image I uploaded separately today. > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:58 PM David Merrick < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > For reference I've attached a description of V. hederifolia as found in UK > flora here, from Sell & Murrell Flora of Great Britain and Ireland vol 3. > There are 2 subspecies here in the UK, I'm not sure what subspecies may lie > further afield across the continents or indeed similar veronica. > > David (Edinburgh) > > 0131 333 2170 (try first) > 07877 316 592 (try second) > > > On 2019-03-02 12:48, J.M. Garg wrote: > > Thanks, Singh ji > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Date: Sat 2 Mar, 2019, 2:01 PM > Subject: [efloraofindia:317827] Veronica stewartii from Kashmir > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Pennell who published revision of Scrophulariaceae of Western Himalayas in > 1943, ignored V. agrestis but listed V. didyma, also did not record V. > hederaefolia from Himalayas:. > > V. didyma (syn V. polita Fries): leaves longer than broad, oval to > lanceolate, dentate, corolla pale violet with darker veins in posterior > lobe, capsule flattened, notched., > V. stewartii: leaves broader than long, shallowly 3-lobed, sepals ovate > acuminate,pedicels 2-4 mm long much shorter than petioles (10-15 mm long) > capsule turgid, rounded or slightly notched at apex.(V. hederaefolia > Europaen species with 5-lobed leaves, pedicels much longer than petioles, > equalling or longer than subtending leaf), > > > This is image of Herbarium sheet for comparison. > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. 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