I know
in some of the Ayurvedic traditional science classes i used to take ,
just to take my mind off the cancer patients plight in the western medicine
model
we ran into this name RatanJot
and some of the professors from BHU were guesting
they talked of many plants and their products called ratan jot
i perhaps have the list someplace in my notes
and they also mentioned
the deliberate confusion created
the story i told you above

so much for the royal chefs' ego!!!

they also used it in meat dishes mainly
and in hunting parties mainly

that perhaps explains why  i have not found it mentioned in both my
grandma's kitchen notes

Usha di
===========


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 11:13 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Names update:
>   • *Nepali*: बलुने साग balune saag
> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/balune-saga-balune-saag>,
> बेथे bethe
> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/bethe-bethe>,
> लट्टे झार latte jhaar
> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/latte-jhara-latte-jhaar>,
> मसिनो पिरे masino pire
> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/masino-pire-masino-pire>,
> सुकुल झार sukul jhaar
> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/sukula-jhara-sukul-jhaar>
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:50 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not very sure ... this plant too is used as greens.
>> रतनजोत ratanjot
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/ratanajota-ratanjot>
>> ... In literature, the vernacular name *ratanjot* is attributed to at
>> least 15 plant species spanning four different families ... research
>> paper
>> <http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/4034/1/NPR%208%282%29%20142-145.pdf>.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:39 PM Ushadi Micromini <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> is this the ratan jot that some royal chefs used to use long ago  to
>>> give their curry a red tinge
>>> and have kept it a secret from the cooking experts and regular culinary
>>> schools etc
>>> i wonder
>>> Usha di
>>> ===========
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:17 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> मसिनो पिरे Masino Pire । सुकुल झार Sukul Jhaar । बलुने साग Balune Saag
>>>> । लट्टे झार Latte Jhaar
>>>> including Bethe !
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 8:04 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> via Species
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species>‎ > ‎P
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/p>‎ > ‎
>>>>> *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. ... *family*: Polygonaceae
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Polygonum plebeium R.Br.]
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5781013727%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH9Ts9KZCspJxoOzlwX1bhZiJVvWQ>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Flowers of India]
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Frisearch%2Fsearch.php%3Fquery%3DPolygonum%2Bplebeium%26stpos%3D0%26stype%3DAND&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHgKuIXwH-d51q28veZndrIlz0Qww>
>>>>>  [image: Discussions at efloraofindia]
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/Polygonum%20plebeium>
>>>>>  [image: more views in flickr]
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DPolygonumplebeium%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFksOHEUFdwARvhrHsnQdCdUaFJ1g>
>>>>>  [image: more views on Google Earth]
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DPolygonumplebeium%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFK-Sex0cCyUlkSK5-yaL0X4ldGfw>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *pol-LIG-go-num* -- many knee joints, angles ... Dave's Botanary
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPolygonum&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG0Lp5aUyQ0iWgABC5WdGHH1JRmfQ>
>>>>> *PLEE-bee-um* -- common ... Dave's Botanary
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dplebeium&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFD_PAzIzYMQcTum_09jucY8izkkA>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *commonly known as*: common knotweed
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/common-knotweed>,
>>>>> small knotweed
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/small-knotweed>
>>>>> • *Bengali*: চিমটি শাক chimati shaak
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/cimati-saka-chimati-shaak>,
>>>>> খুদি বিষকাঁটালি khudi bisakamtali
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/khudi-bisakamtali-khudi-bisakamtali>,
>>>>> মেছুয়া শাক mechuya shaak
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/mechuya-saka-mechuya-shaak>,
>>>>> রাণীফুল raniphul
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/raniphula-raniphul>
>>>>> • *Gujarati*: ઝીણકો ઓખરાડ jhinko okharad
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/jhinako-okharada-jhinko-okharad>
>>>>> • *Hindi*: चिमटी साग chimati saag
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/cimati-saga-chimati-saag>,
>>>>> लाल बूटी lal buti
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/lala-buti-lal-buti>,
>>>>> मचेची machechi
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/maceci-machechi>
>>>>> • *Kachchhi*: રતનજોત ratanjot
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kachchhi/ratanajota-ratanjot>
>>>>> • *Kannada*: ಕೆಂಪು ನೆಲ ಅಕ್ಕಿ kempu nela akki
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/kempu-nela-akki-kempu-nela-akki>,
>>>>> ಸೀರನಿಗೆ ಸೊಪ್ಪು siranige soppu
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/siranige-soppu-siranige-soppu>
>>>>> • *Manipuri*: তৰাকমনা tarakmana
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/manipuri/taraakamana-tarakmana>
>>>>> • *Marathi*: गुलाबी गोधडी gulabi godhadi
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/gulabi-godhadi-gulabi-godhadi>
>>>>> • *Nepali*: बेथे bethe
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/bethe-bethe-1>
>>>>> • *Odia*: ମୁଠି ଶାଗ muthi sag
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/muthi-saga-muthi-sag>
>>>>> • *Sanskrit*: सर्पाक्षी sarpakshi
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/sarpaksi-sarpakshi>,
>>>>> सर्पलोचना sarpalochana
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/sarpalocana-sarpalochana>
>>>>> • *Telugu*: చిమటి కూర chimati kura
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/cimati-kura-chimati-kura>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *botanical names*: *Polygonum plebeium* R.Br. ... *synonyms*: *Polygonum
>>>>> aviculare* var. *minutiflorum* Franch. • *Polygonum changii* Kitag. • 
>>>>> *Polygonum
>>>>> herniarioides* Spreng. • *Polygonum parviflorum* Y.L. Chang & S.H. Li
>>>>> • *Polygonum roxburghii* Meisn. ... status at *The Plants List*
>>>>> (2013). Version 1.1.
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2Ftpl1.1%2Frecord%2Fkew-2573805&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGSOs3n7CuVP1SLoTHfZnepv3RKcg>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> May 29, 2011 ... along KSH 34, Dandeli Wildlife Sanctuary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
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