Thank you Ushadi, you have always been most encouraging.

Warm regards,
Ashwini

On Mon, 13 May, 2019, 9:53 AM Ushadi Micromini, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ashwini
> Superb presentation
> i love it
> Usha di
> ===========
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:31 AM Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I have been trying to establish the correct identity of our plantago
>> species here. Since it is a difficult genus, it took me quite a while to
>> reach some conclusion. Following our previous conversation I had started
>> with *Plantago major* as the beginning point. Referring to the excellent 
>> *Tibetan
>> Medicinal Plants* edited by Christa Kletter and Monika Kriechbaum (I
>> found a copy in a Tibetan library here) I started looking first at *Plantago
>> depressa* because our plants do not always have noticeable broad leaves.
>> Studying the visible characteristics was not enough to rule out depressa so
>> I had to pull out two plants (something I don't enjoy doing) to look at the
>> root structure. I found the younger of the two plants without any rootstock
>> but the other *had a stocky rootstock, the bottom end of which looked
>> cut*, which according to the key in the book ruled out depressa (which
>> should have a taproot). Furthermore the *seedpods contained between 9
>> and 14 tiny seeds each measuring roughly 1.2 mm*, strengthening the case
>> for *P. major* complex (depressa should have 6-8, 2 mm each).
>>
>> Once I ruled out depressa, I started looking at plants similar to *P.
>> major* (within the complex) that fit the description of our plants. A
>> comment in the book said that *P. erosa* is difficult to tell apart from *P.
>> major* but erosa has hairy leaves especially when they are young. I
>> looked at young leaves and found them to be hairy. In fact there are
>> scattered leaves even on the mature leaves. Also according to the key,
>> erosa should have a continuous sepal keel, which again is true for our
>> plants (I will appreciate if someone could confirm this looking at the
>> photos).
>>
>> So *I am inclined to put our plants as P. erosa within the larger P.
>> major complex*. Please advise.
>>
>> I found another pdf on the family here
>> <http://ashipunov.info/shipunov/plantago/plantagineae_key.pdf>.
>>
>> All plants were photographed at roughly 1700-1800m altitude between 08-10
>> May 2019 in Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Ashwini
>>
>> PS: Please note my new email address. Thanks.
>>
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