Ok, Thanks Giby ji, we leave this Unided.

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear Rashida,
>
> That is true in the case of ripened fruits, whereas unripened mature fruits
> of both the species are yellow then both turned to purplish black and while
> crushing you can see the dark purple or violet juice. People mention the
> color what they see at the time of collections. So my humble request is
> don't depend upon colors.
>
> Regards
> Giby
>
>
> On 31 May 2010 20:04, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Giby ji as per Dr. Almeida's flora M. umbellatum has Berry globose, 6 mm,
>> purplish black.
>>
>> regards,
>> Rashida.
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Rashida,
>>>
>>> M.umbellatum also do have yellow berries. This plant, as you said can be
>>> confused between M. umbellatum and M.talbottianum. M.talbottianum grows
>>> under thick evergreen canopy even well stratified thick forest. But
>>> M.umbellatum never grow in such condition. And M.talbotianum
>>> generally doesn't grow in open conditions (some ecological notes from
>>> personal experience). But, here, if you are sure about the flowers were
>>> sessile this can be most probably M. talbotianum. Am still bit confused
>>> about the leaf shape. Better we don't confirm it unless we get a picture of
>>> leafy branch in which you can zoom in single leaf and see the petiole and
>>> nerves and a lateral shot of inflorescence when you see the plant in bloom.
>>> Do make sure that you are not missing out characters and not just pictures
>>> of flower, leaf etc. You may please refer some pictorial guide such as
>>> Flowers of Sahyadri and Some Flowering Plants of the Western Ghats. May be 
>>> Shrikant
>>> Ingalhalikar would be able to give us some tips on the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Giby
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31 May 2010 19:15, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately this is all the pics I have, I posted it only due to the
>>>> yellow berries. The petiole was very short perhaps 1cm, flowers almost
>>>> sessile. Both are small trees. This tree can be easily mistaken for M.
>>>> umbellatum but for the yellow berries.  If I am not mistaken  only M.
>>>> talbotianum  has berry globose yellow.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Rashida.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Smilax004 <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rashida,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you please give more details such whether the leaves are
>>>>> petioled or sessile (not clear from the picture, out of focus, please
>>>>> take a picture of a single branch held parallel to your lens).  Please
>>>>> tell whether the flower/inflorescence is pedicellate or not (The
>>>>> flower picture is out of focus details are not available). Please give
>>>>> other details in the format we follow in this forum. I need basically
>>>>> the approximate size of the plant and leaves.
>>>>>
>>>>> I too have a guess that this is M.talbotianum. But to validate we
>>>>> should get a more clear picture and details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Giby
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 31, 4:14 pm, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > Memeycelon  sp.  evergreen tree seen scantily flowering at some
>>>>> places and
>>>>> > profusely fruiting at some places at Kulgi, Anashi WLS, Karnataka,
>>>>> last week
>>>>> > of April, '10. The berries are green and than turning yellow
>>>>> indicative of
>>>>> > Memycelon talbotianum. Kindly validate.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > regards,
>>>>> > Rashida.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Memycelon sp. flowers.JPG
>>>>> > 194KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Memycelon sp fruiting.JPG
>>>>> > 125KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Memycelon sp fruits2.JPG
>>>>> > 143KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Memycelon sp leaves 3.JPG
>>>>> > 180KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Memycelon sp leaves 4.JPG
>>>>> > 186KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Memycelon sp fruiting full tree.JPG
>>>>> > 172KViewDownload
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