Thank you Ashwini Ji for detailed clarification. Could you please look into
my other posts on Lysimachia?

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:27 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Ashwini ji, for the wonderful presentation and images.
>
> --
> With regards,
> J. M. Garg
>
> On Thu 4 Jul, 2019, 9:38 PM Ashwini Bhatia, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There is already some discussion on the nomenclature of this species. We
>> seem to have decided on *Lysimachia japonica ssp. japonica* following
>> the Flora of Pakistan and Saroj ji had pointed out earlier that the
>> Plantlist <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-26400910> and Plants
>> of the World Online
>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:701095-1>
>> treat *L. debilis* as an accepted name. Also, Flora of China treats *L.
>> debilis* as a separate species from *L. japonica*. I have followed the
>> pdf here <http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/PDF15/lysimachia.pdf>
>> to look at the characteristic features of both these species. I am listing
>> some differences for easy reference:
>>
>> No. 60 in the pdf, *L. japonica*: leaves transparent glandular punctate,
>> calyx 3-4mm enlarging to 7-8mm in fruit, corolla 5-8mm in diameter, style
>> 2-3mm, flowering in March-April
>>
>> No. 89 in the pdf, *L. debilis*: leaves (and corolla) reddish glandular
>> punctate, calyx 7mm enlarging to 1cm in fruit and reddish glandular
>> punctate, corolla 6x2=12mm in diameter, tube 2mm, style 4mm, flowering in
>> June
>>
>> Following these characters, our plants here and those posted by Saroj ji
>> are almost certainly *Lysimachia debilis*. Flower size, red glands and
>> flowering time are strong indicators. I am attaching some photos showing
>> these and some other properties clearly.
>>
>> The question, which resource to follow, however, remains. I am not sure
>> which authority supersedes the other. I am inclined to follow *L.
>> debilis* in the meantime.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Ashwini
>>
>> All plants are photographed in June between 1750-2000m above Mcleodganj
>> in Dharamshala, HP.
>>
>>
>>

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