No I am not talking about changing pdfs. But the matter on these pdf on the Nepal flora is more detailed (yet incomplete) than ours.
On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 15:23, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > Pankaj > > you mean convert our pages to pdf? > but why? > Gargji is constantly revising and correcting the pages as he gets new > cases, new information and he gets to that page. > pdf wont allow that, would it? > > you are right about the fact that this website for Nepal flora is a > collaboration. > its a serious collaboration > and extensive scientifically precise documentation and classification > on their website there is a button for image gallery > in addition to superb photographs, in more than 2500 pages > there are 6 or 8 pages that show people involved working, collecting etc > and the process... > at url : http://www.floraofnepal.org/imagegallery#2 > herbarium specimen being examined under dissecting microscope for help in > precise classification. > > this is in contrast to what we do, we donot have herbarium, nor a lab.... > only member submitted photographs > in some cases we do get good quality photographs and can do classification > and identification. > > but often when pictures are not upto par, some of us say so, > wanting to leave things as either unided, dubia as Gurcharanji calls it, > or just give it family or genus level diagnosis, > yet some of our more courageous members ( i am being charitable here) > go ahead and give a diagnosis down to species level, sometimes even > cultivar level... or subspecies level... > thats frustrating ... at scientific level. > > > I think, for us to get to be similar to such sites, we need to be > stricter in our enthusisam to classify and pass judgements down to species > level in most of our such incomplete cases. > > == > Googling for "use of dissecting scope in study of herbarium specimen" > got me 165,000 pages and lots of images > > one of which is this > [image: For the taxonomic revision of Atocion and Viscaria , flowers from > herbarium specimens were boiled, dissected, and the character states > observed under the stereomicroscope. Here the flower of Viscaria alpina , > with removed calyx. Quantita- tive floral characters were measured using a > digital image analysis system. The measures are indicated here as > originally displayed (photo B. Frajman, July 2007).] > > <https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Heliosperma-macranthum-represents-one-of-the-three-main-evolutionary-lineages-in_fig5_266498385> > *For the taxonomic revision of Atocion and Viscaria , flowers from > herbarium specimens were boiled, dissected, and the character states > observed under the stereomicroscope. Here the flower of Viscaria alpina , > with removed calyx. Quantita- tive floral characters were measured using a > digital image analysis system. The measures are indicated here as > originally displayed (photo B. Frajman, July 2007). * > > > > POINT of this is that that classification and naming of species is a > serious and time consuming business. > > cant always be done on point and shoot or cell phone camera pictures. > Usha di > =========== > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 2:08 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Indeed Pankaj. Dr. Bhaskar Adhikari is also involved in this [roject ! >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:23 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. A great thought. >>> >>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 09:59, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Please remember that the Flora of Nepal is run by professional >>>> botanists in collaboration of Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh and Japan. I >>>> really appreciate their efforts. This is something similar which BSI should >>>> have done for India. >>>> I do wish that someday we convert our efloraofindia into something >>>> similar. >>>> Best regards >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 12:22, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> wonderful start >>>>> >>>>> do we now also have a Nepal page(?) >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:49 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What I find is that only some 26 odd families have detailed accounts >>>>>> with keys (Flora of Nepal- Online accounts >>>>>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora>) etc. while some others >>>>>> are in the process. >>>>>> However, images and herbarium specimens, may be available beyond >>>>>> these families also in Image gallary at Home page >>>>>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/home> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 20:57, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I a referring time and again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:21 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 12:05 >>>>>>>> Subject: Flora of Nepal- Online accounts >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Flora of Nepal- Online accounts >>>>>>>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora> is now available online >>>>>>>> and can be pursued through search or family wise. >>>>>>>> I think Home page <http://www.floraofnepal.org/home> further >>>>>>>> offers pdf version along with Gallary of images, herbarium specimens >>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>> We have to use it extensively as till now we have to rely on Flora >>>>>>>> of China as BSI flora online version is not working since long. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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