Thank you Ashwini
write to you after I read the two papers
and some more I found about the anatomy of the seeds
very interesting
and I learned something new

get back to you soon
Regards
Ushadi


On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 9:15 PM Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you Ushadi. The flowers had a distinct aroma but I did not crush a
> leaf. Next time I am up there, I will check it out.
>
> There are a couple of excellent papers on fruit morphology of Apiaceae by
> Chinese scientists that might interest you:
>
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225527578_Phylogeny_and_biogeography_of_Chinese_Heracleum_Apiaceae_Tribe_Tordylieae_with_comments_on_their_fruit_morphology
>
>
> https://bioone.org/journals/Systematic-Botany/volume-42/issue-2/154823217X695539/The-Phylogenetic-Significance-of-Fruit-Anatomical-and-Micromorphological-Structures-in/10.1600/154823217X695539.short
>
>
> Regards,
> Ashwini
>
> On Sun, 25 Aug, 2019, 6:34 PM ushadi, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ashwini
>> your perseverance paid off
>> the fruits are gorgeous
>> and your photography superb
>>
>> and to the point.
>> obovate and pubescent per this page
>> <https://www.himalayanvoices.org/sites/default/files/Heracleum%20candicans_0.pdf>
>>
>> that page also mentions a distinct aroma of the crushed leaf...
>> is there an aroma?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 8:55 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Ashwini ji.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 08:25, mcleodwild <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I finally have the fruit. I think the plant is *Heracleum candicans*.
>>>> Please advice.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Ashwini
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:10:01 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Ashwini ji.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:33, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am attaching one photo of the leaf undersurface for the record. I
>>>>>> will go hiking soon and get photos of the seeds before settling on an ID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:16, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On further checking, I found your post is correct for *Heracleum
>>>>>>> candicans*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1>
>>>>>>>  as
>>>>>>> is also for Saroj ji's post at SK1920 16 May 2019
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/MuqKiRULsdM>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 at 13:59
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:249039] Angelica oreadum? ABAUG2016/22
>>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I had mentioned in my original message that the photos were of
>>>>>>> two separate individuals. I realised had made a mistake in clubbing the 
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> together now that the seeds have appeared on the first plant. I tracked
>>>>>>> down that plant and am posting the photos form the same single plant.
>>>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 Aug 2016, at 17:31, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>> Looks different from images at Angelica oreada
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica>-
>>>>>>> from me
>>>>>>> Pl. check comparative images at Apiaceae
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae> &
>>>>>>> at *Angelica*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica>,
>>>>>>> *Bupleurum*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/bupleurum>,
>>>>>>> *Chaerophyllum*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/chaerophyllum>,
>>>>>>> *Daucus*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/daucus>,
>>>>>>> *Eryngium*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/eryngium>,
>>>>>>> *Heracleum*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum>,
>>>>>>> *Pimpinella*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/pimpinella>,
>>>>>>> *Selinum*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/selinum>
>>>>>>>  &
>>>>>>> *Seseli*
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/seseli>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: 8 August 2016 at 12:08
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:249039] Angelica oreadum? ABAUG2016/22
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This tall apiaceae with large leaves may be *Angelica* *oreadum*.
>>>>>>> Please advise. The photos are of two separate individuals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mcleodganj-Triund, HP
>>>>>>> 2500m and above.
>>>>>>> 06 August 2016.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Ashwini
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <_MG_2205_06Aug2016.jpg><_MG_2210_06Aug2016.jpg>
>>>>>>> <_MG_2212_06Aug2016.jpg><_MG_2215_06Aug2016.jpg>
>>>>>>> <_MG_2425_06Aug2016.jpg>
>>>>>>> <_MG_2534_06Aug2016.jpg><_MG_2539_06Aug2016.jpg>
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>>
>> usha di
>>
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