---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ushadi <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 10:44 Subject: Re: [itpmods:13126] Re: efloraofindia - Google Sites-Urgent solution needs to be found To: itpmods <[email protected]>
this needs a practical solution and a little bit of concern and care I like solution that takes Ocham's razor in consideration. Regards Ushadi On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:58 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Since our group is open to public access, whether being a member or just > some viewer, there does not arise any security issue of seeking images from > the posts. Now that the problem is persisting, it has made me think in > different fashion. I think only Google engineer will be help us out with > appropriate solution. > Let us hope for a sure resolve from their end. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:47 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Dinesh ji. >> But that is how our site has been built. >> I will start reporting the matter in this way from tomorrow onwards, to >> Google and Google sites. >> Hope they will understand the understand the underlying problem and take >> necessary steps to rectify the situation. >> There has been similar issues when inserting images with search in efi >> site getting disoriented (which gave us trouble for about a year or so) and >> site sometimes not being accessible, which they used to rectify on >> reporting the matter to Google and to Google sites. >> You can look at moderators images, which have been uploaded directly from >> PC. >> I will also have a look tomorrow. >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> On Thu 29 Aug, 2019, 7:01 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Garg ji, I understand the images inserted into eFI Site are from the eFI >>> Group. >>> The content of Group are posts or messages, which are certainly secured >>> by Google. >>> >>> I am naive about this matter - but when we seek images from secured >>> content of Group into Site, there is a possibility that a warning gets >>> triggered. Such warning could be because of evolution of better security in >>> Google's software. But this is just my thought. I may not be correct. >>> >>> To check out alternative treatment of inserting images, few images from >>> Group must be uploaded to Google Photos of your account, clearly setting >>> the image access to public. Try inserting those images into site's page, >>> and share URL of that page in itpmods. We will check whether we succeed in >>> getting rid of this issue. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:35 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Singh ji, for the nice words. You laid the foundation and we >>>> all are just working on that. >>>> As far as current issue is concerned, we are helpless as of now and do >>>> not find any other way except reporting the matter to Google. >>>> We have always traveled in uncharted territory. >>>> >>>> On Thu 29 Aug, 2019, 6:29 PM Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Garg ji, the more prominent you are the more vulnerable you >>>>> are. As pointed out earlier our website appeared never so prominently as >>>>> now in Google searches, thanks largely to your efforts especially over >>>>> last >>>>> few months when I see more than 50 notifications of updation every day. I >>>>> greatly admire your dedication, that makes me more concerned about >>>>> popularity of our website. >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:50 AM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Garg ji, we will do what we can at our end. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:43 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have again reported the matter to Google under Deceptive Site >>>>>>> Ahead, as below: >>>>>>> 'I am the owner of this site. This is happening from last 12 days or >>>>>>> so, in Chrome on clicking on any image, for all pages in this Google >>>>>>> site >>>>>>> but is OK in Internet Explorer. Earlier for last 9 years it was never >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> it.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also *reported the matter to Google **sites *again today, under >>>>>>> Report an Issue like this: >>>>>>> 'I am the owner of this site. Chrome is showing this Google site as >>>>>>> Dangerous as can be seen on the left side of the address bar since last >>>>>>> 12 >>>>>>> days or so. Due to this, persons who want to access this, are getting >>>>>>> Deceptive Site Ahead warning on clicking on any thumbnails or links. Pl. >>>>>>> look into and rectify' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *I request the members also to report the matter to Google on >>>>>>> similar lines.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 18:02, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Being a Google site, I think Google will sort out the security >>>>>>>> issue if any, as nothing is in our hands. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 18:01, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Singh ji. >>>>>>>>> It is OK as long as you do not open more pages or click on images >>>>>>>>> for opening. >>>>>>>>> Once you do that, site is marked as dangerous. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 17:54, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And what I find problem is with the individual pages, not the >>>>>>>>>> website in general Today I opened homepage (it went well), clicked >>>>>>>>>> alphabetic list, was able to see genera of Rosaceae. Acaena page was >>>>>>>>>> fine >>>>>>>>>> but A. echinata deceptive; Agrimonia page deceptive, Alchemilla page >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> fine but species pages deceptive, Aruncus alright but species pages >>>>>>>>>> deceptive, Chaenomeles, Comarum both fine but species pages >>>>>>>>>> deceptive. >>>>>>>>>> Cotoneaster page itself deceptive and so on. >>>>>>>>>> I am using Chrome, and my concern is we can't ask millions >>>>>>>>>> of users around the World to use a particular browser and how to add >>>>>>>>>> it to >>>>>>>>>> safe websites, especially when so many websites are becoming >>>>>>>>>> notorious. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:05 AM Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> While we should be happy that in most of the Google searches >>>>>>>>>>> (which has species featured on eflorafindia) our website gets >>>>>>>>>>> listed in top >>>>>>>>>>> two or three websites, on clicking it is shown as dangerous website. >>>>>>>>>>> Earlier the danger screen would vanish after a few seconds, now in >>>>>>>>>>> 95 >>>>>>>>>>> percent of cases it persists and you have to exit the website. This >>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>> very serious issue which needs to addressed for permanent solution. >>>>>>>>>>> Whereas >>>>>>>>>>> we may educate a few people on the moderator group or even plus 3000 >>>>>>>>>>> members of efloraofindia, what about general public for whom this >>>>>>>>>>> website >>>>>>>>>>> is ultimately meant. Anyone who sees warning sign a couple of times >>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> never go back to our website and may even warn his/her friends >>>>>>>>>>> about it. >>>>>>>>>>> Unless urgent solution is found, we may land into category >>>>>>>>>>> of websites which users may desist from visiting. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpUY6Fr0vPJbe-83EVkYCEQ3qhemqtNcp-mBr-T7-b5TqA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpUY6Fr0vPJbe-83EVkYCEQ3qhemqtNcp-mBr-T7-b5TqA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>> free >>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBxd8UtW_KtcdhQuLTZSxLd%3DxZKFihpw83U6%3DOP7xbwOQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBxd8UtW_KtcdhQuLTZSxLd%3DxZKFihpw83U6%3DOP7xbwOQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpV%3Do_OF_PhD5NxiDdu0roeRoS3HYd%2BHmGP%2BWpT6tbYr0g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpV%3Do_OF_PhD5NxiDdu0roeRoS3HYd%2BHmGP%2BWpT6tbYr0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFCMz9jNDvUyNUyA0QA8PHjFqz3hmiG6M4Pa%2B-H9KeXffQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFCMz9jNDvUyNUyA0QA8PHjFqz3hmiG6M4Pa%2B-H9KeXffQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABSQqC2u2ufo29wOP3RndD6oPsG4CZzekie21KX5D_pK%2BCo3Dw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABSQqC2u2ufo29wOP3RndD6oPsG4CZzekie21KX5D_pK%2BCo3Dw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ITPmods" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBEko30vadQzfz1Eykz0AuE%3Dj2V5jNxXFtP6%3DO22djfPA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBEko30vadQzfz1Eykz0AuE%3Dj2V5jNxXFtP6%3DO22djfPA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ITPmods" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABSQqC2j2pz%2BvKymyKuqLBr701XUp2Kr9NGu114DA5jxPdz%2BMQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABSQqC2j2pz%2BvKymyKuqLBr701XUp2Kr9NGu114DA5jxPdz%2BMQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ITPmods" group. 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For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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