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From: ushadi <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 10:44
Subject: Re: [itpmods:13126] Re: efloraofindia - Google Sites-Urgent
solution needs to be found
To: itpmods <[email protected]>


this needs a practical solution
and a little bit of concern and care

I like solution that takes Ocham's razor in consideration.

Regards
Ushadi


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:58 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Since our group is open to public access, whether being a member or just
> some viewer, there does not arise any security issue of seeking images from
> the posts. Now that the problem is persisting, it has made me think in
> different fashion. I think only Google engineer will be help us out with
> appropriate solution.
> Let us hope for a sure resolve from their end.
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:47 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Dinesh ji.
>> But that is how our site has been built.
>> I will start reporting the matter in this way from tomorrow onwards, to
>> Google and Google sites.
>> Hope they will understand the understand the underlying problem and take
>> necessary steps to rectify the situation.
>> There has been similar issues when inserting images with search in efi
>> site getting disoriented (which gave us trouble for about a year or so) and
>> site sometimes not being accessible, which they used to rectify on
>> reporting the matter to Google and to Google sites.
>> You can look at moderators images, which have been uploaded directly from
>> PC.
>> I will also have a look tomorrow.
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J. M. Garg
>>
>> On Thu 29 Aug, 2019, 7:01 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Garg ji, I understand the images inserted into eFI Site are from the eFI
>>> Group.
>>> The content of Group are posts or messages, which are certainly secured
>>> by Google.
>>>
>>> I am naive about this matter - but when we seek images from secured
>>> content of Group into Site, there is a possibility that a warning gets
>>> triggered. Such warning could be because of evolution of better security in
>>> Google's software. But this is just my thought. I may not be correct.
>>>
>>> To check out alternative treatment of inserting images, few images from
>>> Group must be uploaded to Google Photos of your account, clearly setting
>>> the image access to public. Try inserting those images into site's page,
>>> and share URL of that page in itpmods. We will check whether we succeed in
>>> getting rid of this issue.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:35 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Singh ji, for the nice words. You laid the foundation and we
>>>> all are just working on that.
>>>> As far as current issue is concerned, we are helpless as of now and do
>>>> not find any other way except reporting the matter to Google.
>>>> We have always traveled in uncharted territory.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu 29 Aug, 2019, 6:29 PM Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Garg ji, the more prominent you are the more vulnerable you
>>>>> are. As pointed out earlier our website appeared never so prominently as
>>>>> now in Google searches, thanks largely to your efforts especially over 
>>>>> last
>>>>> few months when I see more than 50 notifications of updation every day. I
>>>>> greatly admire your dedication, that makes me more concerned about
>>>>> popularity of our website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:50 AM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Garg ji, we will do what we can at our end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:43 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have again reported the matter to Google under Deceptive Site
>>>>>>> Ahead, as below:
>>>>>>> 'I am the owner of this site. This is happening from last 12 days or
>>>>>>> so, in Chrome on clicking on any image, for all pages in this Google 
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>> but is OK in Internet Explorer. Earlier for last 9 years it was never 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> it.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also *reported the matter to Google **sites *again today, under
>>>>>>> Report an Issue like this:
>>>>>>> 'I am the owner of this site. Chrome is showing  this Google site as
>>>>>>> Dangerous as can be seen on the left side of the address bar since last 
>>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>> days or so. Due to this, persons who want to access this, are getting
>>>>>>> Deceptive Site Ahead warning on clicking on any thumbnails or links. Pl.
>>>>>>> look into and rectify'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I request the members also to report the matter to Google on
>>>>>>> similar lines.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 18:02, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being a Google site, I think Google will sort out the security
>>>>>>>> issue if any, as nothing is in our hands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 18:01, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Singh ji.
>>>>>>>>> It is OK as long as you do not open more pages or click on images
>>>>>>>>> for opening.
>>>>>>>>> Once you do that, site is marked as dangerous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 17:54, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And what I find problem is with the individual pages, not the
>>>>>>>>>> website in general Today I opened homepage (it went well), clicked
>>>>>>>>>> alphabetic list, was able to see genera of Rosaceae. Acaena page was 
>>>>>>>>>> fine
>>>>>>>>>> but A. echinata deceptive; Agrimonia page deceptive, Alchemilla page 
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> fine but species pages deceptive, Aruncus alright but species pages
>>>>>>>>>> deceptive, Chaenomeles, Comarum both fine but species pages 
>>>>>>>>>> deceptive.
>>>>>>>>>> Cotoneaster page itself deceptive and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>       I am using Chrome, and my concern is we can't ask millions
>>>>>>>>>> of users around the World to use a particular browser and how to add 
>>>>>>>>>> it to
>>>>>>>>>> safe websites, especially when so many websites are becoming 
>>>>>>>>>> notorious.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:05 AM Gurcharan Singh <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While we should be happy that in most of the Google searches
>>>>>>>>>>> (which has species featured on eflorafindia) our website gets 
>>>>>>>>>>> listed in top
>>>>>>>>>>> two or three websites, on clicking it is shown as dangerous website.
>>>>>>>>>>> Earlier the danger screen would vanish after a few seconds, now in 
>>>>>>>>>>> 95
>>>>>>>>>>> percent of cases it persists and you have to exit the website. This 
>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>> very serious issue which needs to addressed for permanent solution. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Whereas
>>>>>>>>>>> we may educate a few people on the moderator group or even plus 3000
>>>>>>>>>>> members of efloraofindia, what about general public for whom this 
>>>>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>> is ultimately meant. Anyone who sees warning sign a couple of times 
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> never go back to our website and may even warn his/her friends 
>>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>       Unless urgent solution is found, we may land into category
>>>>>>>>>>> of websites which users may desist from visiting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest
>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) 
>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia
>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of 
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more
>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies,
>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use 
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common
>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest
>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) 
>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia
>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than
>>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, 
>>>>>>>> Plants
>>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for 
>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than
>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants
>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for 
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>>
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
1,70,000 images are directly displayed).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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