4 bracts is usual, but you will find some sites say 4 to 6
but I have never seen 6

its the other points
that seem to differentiate in my mind


and the third TREE picture.... I cant name it beyond Flowering Dogwood
neither should you
unless your last pictures are from that tree....



Regards
Ushadi


On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:57 AM Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote:

> Got it Ushadi!
> And I thought them to petals!
>
> Ok, so to order them in ascending order of time taken:
>
> DSC05703 - C. florida
> DSC05705 - C. florida
> DSC05706 - C. florida (having 4 bracts and hence C. florida)
> DSC05707 - C. nuttallii
> DSC05711 - C. nuttallii
> DSC05762 - C. nuttallii
>
> Thank you Usha di for explaining it so well.
>
> Also attaching cropped pics of the real flowers.
>
> Thanks and regards
> Alka Khare
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 10:50:23 AM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:
>>
>> Alka
>>
>> I like Uncle google.....
>>
>> The flower petals really BRACTS are 4, and shape is different.
>> look at the distal end of the petals, its rounded and even has a vague
>> notch or
>> what is reminiscent of a notch as in c. florida flower bracts/petals
>>
>> ANd the real flowers look different to me,
>> I was not able to enlarge them well enough
>> to describe them officially.
>>
>>
>> Another dogwood c. capitata has similar bract shape as c. florida,
>> finally if you had gone back in end of summer or fall the red fruits
>> would have been red, in either ...
>> but different looking.but its leaves to me are different. though you
>> don't yet have many leaves.
>>
>>
>> But to me, you have two different types of flowers....
>> your major group is Mountain Dogwood.
>>
>> sorry, that's as far as I can go today
>>
>>
>> Unless you can find the whole tree picture of these flowers
>> and we can point out that they arose from the same tree trunk, then
>> we can make a theory that perhaps the bracts are variable in numbers
>>  and shape in this particular mountain dogwood.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:39 AM ushadi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mahadesrawa ji
>>> we see mountain dogwood in the pacific coast
>>> on the mountains and in the parks or wilderness areas
>>>
>>> but the controversy ids about the  c. florida type of flowers
>>> and the link I have given above says some times the inns or private
>>> gardens have planted the usual  (ie eastern var of dogwoods)
>>>
>>> I have seen private yards homes in some redwood forests from before they
>>> were protected parks
>>>
>>> and those yard have non-native plants.  some people have started
>>> documenting them.
>>> takes a long time to track them, but if one searches long enough you can
>>> find them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ushadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:00 AM Mahadeswara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Cornus for sure , but not  sure of the  species.  I have also seen
>>>> this dogwood in *Yosemite
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 7:22:32 AM UTC+5:30, Alka Khare wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Usha di.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the flower pics do have the same/very close to each other 'time
>>>>> taken'. So mostly they are of the same tree. I generally do that. However,
>>>>> I cannot be sure after these many years.
>>>>>
>>>>> The long shot, however, has been clicked at a another time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked Uncle Google about C. florida in Yosemite, but he could not
>>>>> give me much info on C. florida in Yosemite.
>>>>> Would like to know why do you consider pics 03 and 05 to be another
>>>>> species (C. florida)? Is it because of the number of petals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Alka Khare
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pics 06, 07, 10, and 11 are Cornus nutalli
>>>>>> mountain dogwood
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pic 03 an d05 seem to be Cornus florida variety
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not sure which one grows in wilderness areas of pacific coastal areas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but nothing I impossible
>>>>>> because pink var are claimed to be smuggled in to yosemite
>>>>>> <https://www.yosemitehikes.com/wildflowers/dogwood/dogwood.htm>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and 62 not sure which one. most likely the wild  mountain dogwood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ushadi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 9:14 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: Alka Khare <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 at 09:38
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:156090] Requesting ID of this tree with
>>>>>>> white flowers - San Francisco, USA : 28052013 : ARK-02
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello friends
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Requesting to please ID this medium sized tree with white flowers
>>>>>>> captured in Yosemite National Park, San Francisco, USA in May 2013.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
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