Usha Di, Thanks for pointing out the differences in the two species. Will try searching further. Regards, Aarti
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:43 PM ushadi <[email protected]> wrote: > I know of at least two Echinacae plants that have skinny (less than 5 cms > wide ) leaves > and flowers that look like this... ie similar.... to what what you have > .... > E. pallida and E. simulata. > > I don't remember your earlier submission > > but here ...in this case > > I cant see the pollen grain color > that is the only way to differentiate Echinacea pallida from E. simulata > I quote > > *"Key to Echinacea in North Carolina* > > Key adapted from Binns et al. (2002 > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/lit_cit.htm>), > Urbatsch et al. (2006 > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/lit_cit.htm> > [FNA]), and Weakley (2008 > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/lit_cit.htm>). > Photos by Krings, unless otherwise indicated. Maps courtesy of USDA PLANTS > and the North Carolina Natural Heritage Program. > 1. Leaves lanceolate to ovate, the larger > 5 cm wide...2.2. Leaves > glabrous on both sides, or scabrous above; receptacle bracts (paleae) 7–12 > mm long, awns about a fourth the length of the entire bract...*E. > laevigata** > *[image: Echinacea laevigata] * > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_complete.jpg> > *[image: Echinacea laevigata habitat]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1812_lect.JPG> > *Habitat of Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea laevigata basal leaves]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1830_lect.JPG> > *[image: > Echinacea laevigata stem closeup]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1815_lect.JPG> > *[image: > Echinacea laevigata leaf closeup]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1816_lect.JPG> > *[image: > Echinacea laevigata]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1829_lect.JPG> > *Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea laevigata]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1813_lect.JPG> > *Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea laevigata]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_6626_lect.JPG> > *Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)* > > > *Echinacea laevigata*(rare [Fed E, S1 G2]; glades and woodlands over mafic > or calcareous substrates; Pd; summer to fall) * > 2'. Leaves pubescent or scabrous on both sides; receptacle bracts (paleae) > 9–15 mm long, awns about half the length of the entire bract...*E. > purpurea* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea] * > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_complete.jpg> > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings1.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings2.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings3.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings4.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings5.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings6.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea purpurea]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings7.jpg> > *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)* > > > *Echinacea purpurea(rare [State SC-V, S1 G4]; roadsides and woodlands, > sometimes spreading from cultivation; Mt, Pd) * > 1'. Leaves lanceolate to linear, the larger < 5 cm wide...3. > > 3. Fresh pollen white...*E. pallida* > *[image: Echinacea pallida] * > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_pallida_complete.jpg> > *[image: Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_lvs.jpg> > *Narrow leaves of Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_lf.jpg> > *Narrow leaf of Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_lf_surface.jpg> > *Abaxial leaf surface of Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_stem.jpg> > *Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_fl.jpg> > *Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)* > *[image: Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_fl2.jpg> > *[image: > Echinacea pallida]* > <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_pollen1.jpg> > > > * Echinacea pallida(rare [SR-D; perhaps introduced? Additional study > needed]; roadsides; Pd, Mt)See note under E. simulata. * > 3'. Fresh pollen pale to bright yellow...*E. simulata* " end quote...from > URL > https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/echinacea.htmgo to > this web page and use the + sign to look at the picturesso unless we see > the pollenits either E. pallida or it is E. simulata. > *not any further * > Regards > Ushadi > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:36 PM Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks for validating Saroj Ji. >> Regards, >> Aarti >> >> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 8:45:43 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju >> wrote: >>> >>> Seems correct ! >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:01 PM Aarti S. 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