Dear Carmelita
GURU is Gurcharanji our most respected Botanist Taxonomist memer, you must have seen his threads. == You must one day visit India and I will personally take you around to the nurseries you will be amazed how UNLABELLED the plants are even in big nurseries. And landscape architects? what is that? is the question most apartment builders ask, they looked askance when I asked at some big office complexes in Delhi on one of my visits earlier this year. The only prolific nursery that studies and labels their plant I find is owned by a palm enthusiast who turned his hobby into a business: the Green Mall in the ganges delta, he even wrote a book. There are no patents on private hybridization by some gardener. Most likely it was an agri import from Thailand, that does booming business of selling flowering plants to India, we see shiploads coming in every winter In Bangkok markets I never saw any labels, for daily consumer trade. Wholesalers may have a more control but don't know. == as noted in the patent application, it is reproduced asexually from cuttings, its very easy to reproduce all kinds of ixoras in the hot and humid climes here just as it did in the patent application. Also he claims it was natural mutation in one branch, and so who is to say it did not occur here in India also, could have occurred countless times many gardeners may have noticed it and grown it and some one took it upon themselves to multiply that " mistake" ??? == I must at this point also point it out to you as a history buff I have been looking in to the mindsets of many inventors particularly in India : not to apply for patents, or copy rights. Dr Jagadish Chandra Bose comes to mind. He never patented his inventions. <https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-current-affairs/story/jagadish-chandra-bose-839079-2016-11-30>He had many .... and Macaroni was given credit and patent for radio.... there are many such inventions he never patented. there are countless others form this country, not celebrated so not easy to find on the internet, only while reading their papers or biographies do I run into them. Dr Jagadish Chandra Bose was much feted, in Europe and in India. You have I am sure read about him in the Book: *Secret life of Plants. Esp Chapter 6 * It was and still is very popular. There was even a movie <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0Wy_sCho4>now a old/bad copy is on utube. Stevie Wonder had a musical CD , <https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Through-Secret-Life-Plants/dp/B000024C7W>actually sountrack fort he original movie..I love it This spring I saw a great display of them in two remaining bookstores in NYC this summer. Any bdy interested in Plants, their life, physiology, growth , their nervous system, their heart and pumping system, their sounds and their 'Humanity" and compassion should read this book. many people give copyrights over to community Several examples are right here,,,,,, one is Gargji Look at the photos he has on the creative commons at Wiki is astounding second such person is Dinesh VAlke \his photostream on flickr an here has no copyright Our entire website has pictures 99% of which do not display a copyright symbol.. phew too long an answer I forget what else I wanted to say I will type it next if I remember what that was be well Regards Ushadi On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 2:20 AM carmelita <[email protected]> wrote: > No landscaper? If it was a group of gardeners volunteering their time, > they are the landscapers. Also, no Guru needed. Only necessary to visit the > local nurseries where plants are most often purchased and inquire what is > the currently most popular Ixora of that color. Here in the US we have what > we call Master Gardeners and some turn to them for advice - perhaps you > have an equivalent group where you live? > > Not necessarily developed by smart gardeners in their own garden, but > rather hybridised by someone who will have patented the plant or at least > applied for a patent. The application for patent will have the most minute > details. > > Tjoe Foeng Jin applied for patent 'Pink Pixie'; this plant is now growing > in rather too many gardens in Florida and Georgia. > https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP15026P2/en > > Other patented Ixora can be excluded due to bloom color such as: > 1994 Diana Zaandam's 'Diora' has white blooms > > Occasionally, a garden plant will create a sport (I recall my father going > into great detail to explain how we should always look for sports); the > gardener can, after much work, apply for a patent for what began as a sport. > 1995 Fabia C Pitman's 'Frankie Hipp' has white blooms with petals having > thin pink margins - it began as a sport on a 'Nora Grant' Ixora > > After a new Ixora is discovered/developed, one needs a grower and then a > supplier. IndiaMart lists several of these: > https://dir.indiamart.com/impcat/ixora-plant.html > > > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 8:35:13 AM UTC-4, dr.rakesh Singh wrote: >> >> This Ixora is dwarf =3 feet , smaller flowers petal less than 1 cm tube >> about 2.5 cm , petals 4 occasionally 5 . >> Small leaves = 4-6 cm long 2-3 cm wide , no hairs , fleshy crunchy , >> pink , red . >> Ornamental in my apartment complex , Surat city , Gujarat >> Today morning , 02 10 2019 >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a157c04c-5bf8-4987-a197-b6b220e43cf3%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a157c04c-5bf8-4987-a197-b6b220e43cf3%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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