true, my sympathies. Saroj ji

but
current state of citizen science requires//demands instant gratification,
even down to not only species level, but to cultivar or var. level
we see it here everyday
I shudder to recall what happens in other groups where the membership
revels in passing whats app pictures for definitive ID...
at least we don't do it,
nor do we encourage it.
we have a more serious goal...
ask Garg ji, and look at his dedication,
and Dinesh's...

current state of citizen science requires//demands instant gratification,
even down to not only species level, but to cultivar or var. level
that bothers me
and irks me... no end
but what do

we are living in a world not of Pliny or Darwin, or Newton
who had luxury of pondering ideas
to sit under a tree
or to sail around the world and think...


Regards
Ushadi


On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:27 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

> Very true but मेरे बस कि बात नहिँ😁😂!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 1:25 pm, ushadi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Dr Balakrishan
>> for saying this .
>>
>> Exactly my point
>> not all plants can be identified based on a few digital photographs
>>
>> many need further details from dissections and photomicrography
>> others may need chromatography or other chemical analysis
>> and still others need molecular DNA/RNA analysis ie genetic studies
>>
>> thanks again
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:00 AM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Balakrshnan Sir !
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 9:14 am, Nambiyath Balakrishnan <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Saroj
>>>> Based on the prostrate-decumbent nature and sparse hairiness of leaves
>>>> and stems, this plant appears more likely to be *Euphorbia indica*
>>>> Lam.
>>>> *E. hypericifolia*,* E. hyssopifolia* and *E. indica *are all closely
>>>> related and it is very difficult to clearly demarcate them from
>>>> photographs.
>>>> These species should be subjected to molecular studies to understand
>>>> their relationships.
>>>> Balakrishnan
>>>> 17 Oct. 2019
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 23:24, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure Dr. Singh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 11:12 pm, dr.rakesh Singh <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In an earlier post few days ago point was discussed as E. indica is
>>>>>> hairy plant . I tried to look but specimen looked glabrous . Leaves on 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other hand are not classic E. hypericifolia . Let us wait for more 
>>>>>> opinions
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 22:05 Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarding for your information kind attention Balakrishnan Sir.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Tapas Da !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarded Conversation
>>>>>>> Subject: SK 2224 16 October 2019
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Location: Pharping, Kathmandu, Nepal
>>>>>>> Altitude: 1690 m.
>>>>>>> Date: 14 September 2019
>>>>>>> Habit : Wild
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Euphorbia hypericifolia L. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:21 PM
>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: dr.rakesh Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:59 PM
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it seems to me . There are species...
>>>>>>> E. hypericifolia
>>>>>>> E. hyssopifolia
>>>>>>> E. indica
>>>>>>> E. nutans
>>>>>>> E. deccanensis
>>>>>>> and even E. hirta
>>>>>>> (and there might be others) ........at times all look similar !!
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:07 PM
>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not listed in Nepal:
>>>>>>> E. hyssopifolia
>>>>>>> E. nutans
>>>>>>> E. deccanensis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not matching to E. hirta !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to elevation looks like matching with Euphorbia indica Lam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way ACFPoN says Euphorbia indica Lam. is the synonym for
>>>>>>> Euphorbia parviflora L. but all other sites listed them separately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj ji,
>>>>>>> Please forward this mail to Balakrishnan Sir and you will get the
>>>>>>> correct name.
>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>> Tapas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
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