Thank you Babakrishnan sir / Usha Di Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 3:04 PM ushadi <[email protected]> wrote: > there is an African euphorbia also seen in the internet as Euphorbia > trigona > https://plantsam.com/euphorbia-trigona/ > > https://www.nurseriesonline.com.au/plant-index/succulents/euphorbia-trigona/ > https://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57020 > > > > and interesting history in a cahed page: > You have reached the cached page for > *http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCCULENTS/Family/Euphorbiaceae/27172/Euphorbia_trigona > <http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCCULENTS/Family/Euphorbiaceae/27172/Euphorbia_trigona>* > *=* > > *and a group I like in California* > *https://garden.org/thread/view/83906/Euphorbia-trigona-origin/?offset=20 > <https://garden.org/thread/view/83906/Euphorbia-trigona-origin/?offset=20>* > *I quote from their moderator, * > *quote copy paste: * > Baja_Costero <https://garden.org/users/profile/Baja_Costero/> > Jun 13, 2018 4:31 PM CST > > Moderator > OK kids, fasten your seatbelts, this quick and dirty summary is coming to > you courtesy of Daryl Koutnik's article in the Euphorbia journal Volume 7 > (published in 1991). All the mistakes are mine. [image: Smiling] Go find > yourself a copy of the original to see all the gory details. > > E. trigona was originally described in 1768 by Miller, who said the plant > was from Sri Lanka (then Ceylon?). It has never been found there except in > cultivation. It was also described later in 1812 by Haworth (who properly > credited Miller, but has received credit mistakenly by various > publications). Also, there was for some time another species called E. > barnhartii, which was named by Lemaire 90 years after trigona, then > subsumed into trigona, then moved elsewhere. > > The thrust of the article (other than telling an interesting historical > story) is whether trigona can be distinguished from hermentiana, and > honestly I don't even want to go there. So we'll skip that angle. Suffice > to say the CoL has placed that plant under trigona, and barnhartii under > lacei, so that's their state of the art, such as it is today. > > After the original description of E. trigona, subsequent authors (like > Haworth) described it as from India, and you will see other references to > that as well, but apparently there is no actual wild trigona growing there, > just cultivated plants gone feral and similar-looking plants being > misidentified. So that geotag has been formally debunked as well. The > earliest description of E. trigona (in the 17th century) came before it had > a proper name, and that reference mentions material from West Africa, so we > now have a third potential site of origin which has not been well confirmed > (at least not in 1991). > > To quote the author regarding identification of Euphorbia trigona in its > various forms: "the key similarity in all of the descriptions is that the > branches are not spreading but erect (appressed)". > > And regarding the flowers, the plant only flowers in tropical climates and > has only been recorded to flower twice in history (though Haworth does > mention flowers, he does not describe them). Again, this info is from 1991, > but from a source I respect. > > I think it's pretty clear this plant has a history like Aloe vera, in > being selected and cultivated far and wide long after the wild plants > disappeared from habitat. As Daisy says, some plants cannot produce seed > after being grown by humans from cuttings for so long (Aloe vera), even > though they flower. Apparently Euphorbia trigona doesn't even get that far > except by freak random chance. > [*Last edited by Baja_Costero - Jun 13, 2018 5:26 PM (+ > <https://garden.org/thread/editlog/1735774/>)*] > [image: Waiting] [image: Give a thumbs up] <https://garden.org/not.php> (2 > <https://garden.org/thumbs/view/threads_posts/pid/1735774/>) | Quote > <https://garden.org/thread/reply/83906/1735774/> | Post #1735774 (6) > <https://garden.org/thread/view_post/1735774/> > > end copy paste > url is > https://garden.org/thread/view/83906/Euphorbia-trigona-origin/?offset=20 > > > Regards > Ushadi > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 8:58 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Balakrishnan ji >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Nambiyath Balakrishnan <> >> Date: Wed 16 Oct, 2019, 9:45 PM >> Subject: Re: SK 2218 12 October 2019 >> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> >> >> Dear Garg Ji >> This is a cultivated species, not indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. >> I am not able to name it. >> With regards >> Balakrishnan >> 16 - 10 - 19 >> >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 15:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 14:40 >>> Subject: Re: SK 2218 12 October 2019 >>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. 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