Tabish and Saroj

wiki is not always right
lots of mistakes

i find in medicine, and medicinal plants


Regards
Ushadi


On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:09 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok !
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:12 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This wikimedia image doesn't agree well with the sketches of Vaccinium
>> griffithianum, that's all I can say.
>>    Tabish
>> -------------------------------------------
>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 7:16 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK! Please see this also !
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F3%2F39%2FVaccinium_griffithii_%252813985125886%2529.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fspecies.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FVaccinium_griffithianum&tbnid=w8Er8GPxP4m1SM&vet=12ahUKEwjgsoGotPblAhULh48KHVCYAyUQMygAegQIARAr..i&docid=KE0Mtfu-HZDD1M&w=2448&h=3264&q=Vaccinium%20griffithianum%20&hl=en-GB&ved=2ahUKEwjgsoGotPblAhULh48KHVCYAyUQMygAegQIARAr
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 7:07 pm, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Saroj,
>>>>    I also initially thought so, and that's why sent an email to the
>>>> author. However, if you look at the flowers visible in the image F, they
>>>> are so tiny compared to the leaves. The earth com image
>>>> <https://www.earth.com/earthpedia/plant/zh-CN/vaccinium-exaristatum/>
>>>> also shows a similar size of the leaves compared to the flowers. In my
>>>> plant, as you can see, the leaves are not so large compared to the flowers.
>>>> Also, the leaflike bracts with each flower, that are visible in my
>>>> images, are visible the same way in sketches at
>>>>
>>>>  plantillustrations 
>>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=130284&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=9&size=1>
>>>>  . For *Vaccinium exaristatum* it is mentioned that the bracts fall off - 
>>>> so I presumed that maybe in
>>>> my plant they have not fallen off yet. Flower color in *Vaccinium 
>>>> exaristatum* is mentioned to be pink, but of course that
>>>> cannot be taken to be hard and fast. Overall I find the agreement with 
>>>> Vaccinium griffithianum very satisfying, both with
>>>> the sketches and also with the description in Flora of British India III, 
>>>> page 454.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Tabish
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:03 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it matches with Vaccinium griffithianum rather your 1st
>>>>> image
>>>>> looks matching with image F of page no.  3459 of enclosed journal
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 3:27 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we all missed* Vaccinium griffithianum* because it is not
>>>>>> listed on efloras.org.
>>>>>> It reemphasizes the need for an up to date online Flora of India.
>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:31 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had sent the images of my plant to Dr. S. Panda, author of the paper
>>>>>>> I had just mentioned
>>>>>>> <https://threatenedtaxa.org/index.php/JoTT/article/view/847>. I
>>>>>>> received his response just now:
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Subhasis Panda <****[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:04:41 +0530
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you sir for your mail
>>>>>>> Images sent by you belong to
>>>>>>> Vaccinium griffithianum
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I must say that looking at the sketches here 
>>>>>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=130284&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=9&size=1>
>>>>>>>  and here 
>>>>>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=227950&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=9&size=1>,
>>>>>>>  I find the agreement to be very good,
>>>>>>> especially the leaf size and the arrangement of the leaves!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:02 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Saroj!
>>>>>>>>    *Vaccinium exaristatum *does seem very close to to my plant.
>>>>>>>> The description of the leaves at FOC agrees well, elliptic, with 4-5 
>>>>>>>> pairs
>>>>>>>> of veins, and toothed margin. Triangular sepals, erect or curled-back,
>>>>>>>> triangular flower lobes also agree. The flowers of my plant also 
>>>>>>>> appear to
>>>>>>>> agree with the images at earth.com and plantillustrations.
>>>>>>>> Altitude agrees too. To me it looks like Saroj has nailed it!
>>>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:05 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vaccinium exaristatum Kurz ??
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Tabish <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 11:55
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:297697] Himalayan plant from Manipur -
>>>>>>>>> TQ-mu02
>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unidentified plant from Shirui hill, Ukhrul, Manipur. Altitude
>>>>>>>>> 1500-2500 m.
>>>>>>>>> Found blooming in early June.
>>>>>>>>> Looks like a shrub. My guess is Vaccinium spp., but that's just a
>>>>>>>>> guess.
>>>>>>>>>  Please identify
>>>>>>>>>   Tabish
>>>>>>>>>
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