Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji, for clarity. On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 15:17, Lalithamba Avadhanam <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gamble described Jasminum sessiliflorum and J angustifolium ; now they are > known as varieties of J.angustifolium , but hirsutum is not given; there is > difference in fruit also, J.angustifolium var. angustifolium fruits in > pairs, ovoid; buds pinkish ; but j.angustifolium var sessiliflorum fruit > spherical, sessile, calyx much longer than fruit, solitary; hence attaching > the fruit images; in J.angustifolium var. hirsutum stems hirsute; buds > white; calux short, pedicel short, but not sessile like sessiliflorum; > these are all my field observations > thank you > regards > A.Lalithamba > > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Does the Gamble gives any keys between the two ? >> >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 12:41, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> While looking for keys for the varieties, I was surprised with the >>> following w.r.t. the calyx size: >>> *Key* to three varieties of *J. angustifolium* as per The taxonomic >>> identity of Jasminum matthewii (Oleaceae) >>> <http://www.iaat.org.in/images/Rheedea_downloads/Rheedea_26_1/Rheedea_26_1_54-56.pdf> >>> (2016) >>> 1. Leaves recurved at margins; secondary veins distinct on both >>> surfaces; domatia present at axils of veins beneath. *Jasminum >>> angustifolium* var. *hirsutum* >>> 1. Leaves not recurved at margins; secondary veins indistinct on both >>> surfaces; domatia absent at axils of veins beneath. . 2 >>> 2. Venation distinct only on upper surface; inflorescence a cyme, >>> (1–)3-flowered, sessile; *calyx lobes 3–4 times longer than tube*; >>> fruiting calyx much longer than fruits. *Jasminum angustifolium* var. >>> *sessiliflorum* >>> 2. Venation obscure on both surfaces; inflorescence a cyme or corymb, >>> (1–)4–7-flowered, pedunculate; *calyx lobes almost equal to tube*; >>> fruiting calyx shorter than fruits. *Jasminum angustifolium* var. >>> *angustifolium* >>> >>> This is in total contradiction to what I found in our observations as >>> well as in An Excursion Flora of Central Tamilnadu, India >>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=umMFT6tKtrkC&pg=PA286&dq=Jasminum+sessiliflorum&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1m-iI-cXmAhWE63MBHV9lBaQQ6AEINjAC#v=onepage&q=Jasminum%20sessiliflorum&f=false> >>> By >>> K. M. Matthew (1993): >>> Calyx lobes > three- fourth the length of the corolla tube for *Jasminum >>> angustifolium* var. *angustifolium* >>> Calyx lobes < half as long as the corolla tube for *Jasminum >>> angustifolium* var. *sessiliflorum* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 21:36, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Lalithamba ji. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 20:20, Lalithamba Avadhanam < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> to me it looks Jasminum sessiliflorum; reasons ; >>>>> leaves small2-3.5cm x 1.5-2cm;;ovate, obtuse at base,petiole short; >>>>> nerves obscure, usu. pubescent on the back on nerves; cymes usually >>>>> 1-flowered; terminal; white, calyx lobes nearly 1cm long, corolla 5-8 >>>>> lobes, long; fruit not seen here; as more characters match with Jasminum >>>>> sessiliflorum I go with J.sessiliflorum.(ref.as per Gamble FPM; >>>>> distribution in Chengalpattu, Kancheevaram are cited) >>>>> thank you >>>>> regards >>>>> A.Lalithamba >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:14 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On further review, I think close to *Jasminum angustifolium* (L.) >>>>>> Willd. >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-angustifolium> >>>>>> only. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 18:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>> I tried but could not find a match as per comparative images at >>>>>>> Jasminum >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: Pandian Tensingh <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 15:31 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:335464] 23112019EPT27 >>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear members >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Presenting this creeper grown among bushy shrubs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jasminum angustifolium ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Location : Chennai outskirts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date :15.11.2019 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Elevation : 33 mts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanking you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> E.P.Tensingh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABPRjB5L%2Bf-TAQF7umiaUNkFk7Vv7%2BvMHizobaSuOdMadEPM5A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABPRjB5L%2Bf-TAQF7umiaUNkFk7Vv7%2BvMHizobaSuOdMadEPM5A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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