Can that be difference between R. pectinata and P. parviflora? -- With regards, J. M. Garg
On Sun 5 Jan, 2020, 9:44 PM dr.rakesh Singh, <[email protected]> wrote: > Garg sir , Today I visited one spot where I had collected 2 and 3 . Thick > vegetation post monsoon has become dry scrub . These plants have become > stunted too . > Still I could find them and photographed . It was very windy making a good > shoot impossible for dissected parts . > Still ... I found . . . > 2 is erect , 3 is prostrate . > Spike in 2 is little longer than 3 . > Leaves more or less similar . > In both posterior , sterile bracts are longer , pointed tip , have hyaline > margins but less wide than anterior bracts , and it is row of two front > fertile two back sterile. > Spikes axillary , multiple in both . > Flowers have corollla limb upper lip acute ,3 lobed lower lip, blue to > purplish , size less than 3mm (2mm ), and hairy outer surface of lower lips > ... in both . > Images will be processed and presented tomorrow , hopefully , with few > thoughts of mine . > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 11:32 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Image 3 will also be *Justicia pectinata* >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/justicia/rungia-pectinata> >> only, >> for the time being, as per discussions so far. >> >> On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 16:01, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Rakesh ji, >>> Image 1 is Justicia concinna >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/justicia/rungia-elegans>, >>> image 2 is Justicia pectinata >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/justicia/rungia-pectinata> >>> Pl. post detailed images for image 3, in a separate mail. >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 20:08, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Rakesh ji. >>>> I have always considered *Rungia* / *Justicia pectinata* to be an >>>> *erect* herb, about 2 feet high, and as wide, many branched, with >>>> *distant* nodes - at least relative to what I consider as *parviflora*. >>>> I may be wrong. From my observations, the height of inflorescence and size >>>> of flowers seem to vary in both species *pectinata* as well as >>>> *parviflora* - depending on habitat. >>>> There is a need for some field expert familiar to this genus to sort >>>> out the confusion and mistakes. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 7:26 PM dr.rakesh Singh < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dinesh sir , you are right in saying first one as distinct species ... >>>>> it used to be Rungia repens ! >>>>> ................... >>>>> 2nd and 3rd ... well , I do not know ... >>>>> There used to be Rungia pectinata and Rungia parviflora . I do not >>>>> know how distinct those two are ... >>>>> could not get clarity on facebook , efi or foi . >>>>> Here in Surat I have this tiny flowered herbaceous plants ... I am >>>>> seeing it since 2016 . >>>>> In my zeal , on facebook I declared the one with larger spike and >>>>> larger sterile bracts as R. pectinata , >>>>> smaller one (image 3) as R. parviflora , and everyone agreed !!! >>>>> Well , except myself . >>>>> In 17 , I had been to Matheran , and saw plants identical to 2nd with >>>>> overall reddish tinge ... in plenty . >>>>> This February , in Tungi near Lonawala , again I saw plants identical >>>>> to 2nd with reddish complexion . >>>>> But I am yet to find anything like 3rd . Anywhere . >>>>> Habitat... there are two spots in city limits where 2 and 3 are found >>>>> , almost together . >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 6:59 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Rakesh ji for lining up images of *Justicia* (*Rungia*) spp. >>>>>> To me IMAGE 1 is one species, and the rest IMAGE 2 and IMAGE 3 *could >>>>>> be* one species - that is, the last two could have variations based >>>>>> on habitat - this is purely my thought. >>>>>> Will wait for comments. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 1:43 PM dr.rakesh Singh < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 25, 2019 at 1:42:40 PM UTC+5:30, dr.rakesh >>>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear members >>>>>>>> Please set this straight for me . >>>>>>>> I have got 3 species of erstwhile Rungia in Surat . >>>>>>>> All 3 images are captured within last one month , inside Surat city >>>>>>>> limits , >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_20191206_140246 - Copy.jpg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMAGE 1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This one has flowers larger than 1 cm , one sided flowering spike >>>>>>>> can be longer than 15 cms , >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> erect to procumbent , much branched , usually single inflorescence >>>>>>>> spike at tip of branches >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .................................. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: IMG_20191214_085357 - Copy.jpg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMAGE 2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This one is again erect to procumbent , spikes at nodes in bunches >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> most of them about 3 to 5 cm long , flowers blue 2-3 mm , >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sterile bracts on behind are longer than fertile bracts . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...................................... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: WP_20191119_016 - Copy.jpg] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMAGE 3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mostly procumbent , much branched , multiple short spikes at nodes >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> only few of them enlarge to a max 3.5 cm , shorter than previous >>>>>>>> one , >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> tiny blue flowers about 2-3 mm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/e82e22e9-092d-42e6-aea4-59cf1a16eeea%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/e82e22e9-092d-42e6-aea4-59cf1a16eeea%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0XE7xWgLyCfKBQpmbhZ4EuSf_9vrTZ4kR6bnt5ac3ubQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0XE7xWgLyCfKBQpmbhZ4EuSf_9vrTZ4kR6bnt5ac3ubQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC2FC4wKQ3y2QQFmaVFAC%3DD4OgkEdU3S52s_TWRffbSBcg%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC2FC4wKQ3y2QQFmaVFAC%3DD4OgkEdU3S52s_TWRffbSBcg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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