Before I could finally take decision regarding shifting all other posts at Lagerstroemia floribunda <https://www.gbif.org/species/3989015> and Lagerstroemia floribunda ? <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstromia-floribunda> to Lagerstroemia duperreana <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-duperreana>, I found the keys at Survey of Lagerstroemia L. (Lythraceae) in Indochina (excl. Thailand) with the description of Lagerstroemia densiflora, sp. nov., a new species from Vietnam <http://sciencepress.mnhn.fr/sites/default/files/articles/hd/a2016n2a8.pdf> Willem J. J. O. DE WILDE, Brigitta E. E. DUYFJES Adansonia, sér. 3, 38 (2): 241-255. (2016) as given below: KEY TO FLOWERING SPECIMENS OF LAGERSTROEMIA L. IN INDOCHINA (Petals measured in the dry state; the pseudopedicel is the narrowed shorter or longer stipe of the base of the calyx tube) 1. Ovary glabrous ............. 2 — Ovary hairy .................. 12 2. Flowers small, the bud 1.5-2 mm diam. ........... 13. *L. micrantha * Merr. — Flowers larger, the bud 5 mm diam. or more ... 3 3. Flower bud (excluding pseudopedicel) globose ............ 4 — Flower bud obovoid ...................................................... 7 4. Flower bud smooth, un-ridged, glabrous, 5-7 mm diam. Petals with claw c. 10 mm long, claw about as long as blade (cultivated) ......... 8. *L. indica *L. — Flower bud ridged, short-hairy or glabrous, 5-15 mm diam. Claw of petals much shorter than the blade .......... 5 5. Flower bud c. 5 mm diam., thinly hairy; petals c. 15 mm long ............... 7. *L. gagnepainii *Furtado & Srisuko — Flower bud 8-15 mm diam., hairy or glabrous; petals 20 mm long or more ................................................ 6 6. Flower bud glabrous, 12-15 mm diam. ...................................................................... 12. *L. macrocarpa *Kurz — Flower bud thinly hairy, 8-11 mm diam. ..................................................................... 17. *L. speciosa *(L.) Pers. 7. Flower bud (calyx tube) not ridged. Infl orescence compact ....... 4. *L. densiflor*a W.J.de Wilde & Duyfj es, sp. nov. — Flower bud (calyx tube) ridged, sometimes faintly ridged only. Inflorescence compact or lax ....................... 8 8. Ridges (faint) 12, twice the number of calyx lobes ................ 5.* L. duperreana *Pierre ex Gagnep. — Ridges 5-9, all alternating with as many calyx lobes ............ 9 9. Flowers large, petals 20 mm long or more. Calyx lobes (6-)7-9 ............ 15. *L. ovalifolia *Teijsm. & Binn. — Flowers smaller, petals less than 10 mm long. Calyx lobes (5 or) 6 ..... 10 10. Calyx with large ear-like auricles, at anthesis resembling calyx lobes, alternating with the calyx lobes ................ 20.* L. venusta *Wall. ex C.B.Clarke — Calyx without large auricles .................... 11 11. Infl orescences compact, short, 3-8 cm long. Leaves beneath with simple hairs all over ............. 21. *L. villosa *Wall. ex Kurz — Infl orescences lax, 8-25 cm long. Leaves glabrescent or with minute hairs along the midrib beneath ................ 3. *L. crispa *Pierre ex Laness. 12. Calyx lobes glabrous within ............................ 13 — Calyx lobes (in upper part) hairy within ............ 15 13. Petiole 1-2 cm long. Petals including claw c. 30 mm long .............. 16.* L. petiolaris *Pierre ex Laness. — Petiole less than 1 cm long. Petals including claw less than 30 mm long ........ 14 14. Lower surface of leaves hairy; venation scalariform. Calyx tube with low ridges ......... 19. *L. tomensosa *C.Presl — Lower surface of leaves glabrous; venation reticulate. Calyx tube with conspicuous winged ridges ............. 9.* L. kratiensis *W.J.de Wilde & Duyfj es 15. Calyx tube not or obscurely ridged ................. 16 — Calyx tube with prominent ridges or wings ....... 19 16. Infl orescences mostly lateral. Margin of petals fi mbriate. Leaf venation scalariform (introduced) .............. 11. *L. loudonii *Teijsm. & Binn. — Infl orescences terminal. Margin of petals entire or erose. Leaf venation scalariform or reticulate ................ 17 17. Flower bud obovoid, sessile, i.e. (almost) without pseudopedicel. Leaf venation scalariform .......... 1.* L. calyculata *Kurz — Flower bud ± abruptly narrowed into (short) pseudopedicel. Leaf venation reticulate ....................... 18 18. Petals 15-30 mm long. Longer stamens 6, radially dimorphic ............... 2. *L. cochinchinensis *Pierre ex Laness. — Petals 12-15 mm long. Longer stamens 9-11, asymmetrically dimorphic ............. 14.* L. noei *Craib 19. Calyx tube with 5 or 6 ridges ............... 10. *L. lecomtei *Gagnep. — Calyx tube with 12(-14) ridges ............... 20 20. Calyx tube obtusely (broadly) ridged, without or with small auricle (knob-like appendix) at the sinuses between The lobes. Ridges not winged ........... 6. *L. floribunda *Jack — Calyx tube acutely ridged, in bud with small inward-curved auricle at the sinuses. Ridges winged, wings 2-3 mm high ............ 18. *L. spireana * Gagnep.
Description for both from this document s given below: *Lagerstroemia duperreana *Pierre ex Gagnep. SPOT-CHARACTERS. — Bark light brown, flaking; leaves, inflorescences, ovaries, capsules all glabrous; pseudopedicel long, 6-12 mm long; calyx lobes conspicuous densely whitish hairy in upper part within. DISTRIBUTION. — Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam. *Lagerstroemia floribunda *Jack SPOT-CHARACTERS. — Bark light brown, flaking; inflorescences short-hairy rust coloured; calyx tube c. 12-ridged; ovary densely hairy; capsules hairy, especially at apex. DISTRIBUTION. — Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Peninsular Malaysia. In view, I think we should take all our posts at Lagerstroemia floribunda <https://www.gbif.org/species/3989015> and Lagerstroemia floribunda ? <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstromia-floribunda> as Lagerstroemia duperreana <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-duperreana> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 18:31, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > After pursuing, GBIF specimens available at Lagerstroemia floribunda > <https://www.gbif.org/species/3989015> and Lagerstroemia duperreana > <https://www.gbif.org/species/3989015>, I feel our posts at Lagerstroemia > floribunda > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-floribunda> > may > be of Lagerstroemia duperreana. > > Pl. see these detailed specimens of Lagerstroemia duperreana as below: > > https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FU.1362292%2Fformat%2Flarge > > https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMjg0LzU4NS8zMjUwNC5qcGc%3D > > https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2108612%2Fformat%2Flarge > > https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2108615%2Fformat%2Flarge > > compared to that of Lagerstroemia floribunda at > > https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.plantatlas.org%2Fimg%2Fspecimens%2FUSF%2F97956.jpg > > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 18:18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Surajit ji. >> Pl. go ahead. >> I think *Lagerstroemia tomentosa* Presl >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014652> is >> OK. Problem is to find our weather our posts at Lagerstroemia floribunda >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-floribunda> >> are >> of Lagerstroemia floribunda or Lagerstroemia duperreana. >> As I could not find any difference or keys on net, we may have to rely on >> GBIF specimens available at Lagerstroemia floribunda >> <https://www.gbif.org/species/3989015> and Lagerstroemia duperreana >> <https://www.gbif.org/species/3989015> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 22:18, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Sir. I'll try to reassess my uploads, if necessary. >>> >>> With regards, >>> >>> Surajit Koley >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 21:29, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Many species are mentioned in different sources other than the usual >>>> ones as below: >>>> Trees of Delhi: A Field Guide >>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=vw9IDLLkWtEC&pg=PA345&dq=Lagerstroemia+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBTgUahUKEwjK-JLD0qrHAhVKI44KHdk1AdQ#v=onepage&q=Lagerstroemia%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>> By >>>> Pradip Krishen (2005) mentions *Lagerstroemia floribunda* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-floribunda> >>>> and *Lagerstroemia tomentosa* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-tomentosa> >>>> Floriculture in India >>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=2H4-39ZufiEC&pg=PA218&dq=Lagerstroemia+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMIjZO02s6qxwIVURmOCh2GVQGR#v=onepage&q=Lagerstroemia%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>> By Gurcharan Singh Randhawa, Amitabha Mukhopadhyay (1986) mentions >>>> *Lagerstroemia >>>> thorellii* <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?21402> >>>> Gagnep. >>>> NTBG <https://ntbg.org/database/plants/detail/lagerstroemia-duperreana> >>>> gibes Lagerstroemia duperreana Pierre ex Gagnep. >>>> *Flora of Pakistan mentions * >>>> *Lagerstroemia tomentosa* Presl >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014652> >>>> (A native of Burma. Cultivated elsewhere) >>>> >>>> Pl. see efi site pages at Lagerstroemia floribunda >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-floribunda> >>>> and >>>> Lagerstroemia tomentosa >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lythraceae/lagerstroemia/lagerstroemia-tomentosa> >>>> (many >>>> posts look similar to your post). >>>> >>>> I think we need to find out the correct id along with keys to different >>>> posts, including yours. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 08:57, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Lagerstroemia duperreana* Pierre >>>>> (Syn: *Lagerstroemia thorelii* Gagnep.) >>>>> A species not still represented in our database. >>>>> A small tree with oblong-lanceolate leaves, up to 20 cm long, 9 cm >>>>> broad, glabrous. Flowers in axillary panicles. Calyx tube rounded in bud, >>>>> minutely appendaged,, not ribbed, stellate-tomentose. Petals ca 12 mm >>>>> long, >>>>> orbicular, crisped, lilac or purple, fading to white. Stamens many. Ovary >>>>> glabrous. >>>>> Clicked from Lal Bagh, Bangalore, September 29, 2015. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpW0WbLZctVzNVfM4Dg_bEqShnXRLPxTrqvNQYSGxF5_ww%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAHiXKpW0WbLZctVzNVfM4Dg_bEqShnXRLPxTrqvNQYSGxF5_ww%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>>> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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