Raghu ji, the doubt of *Bauhinia racemosa* can be safely discarded. All species of Bauhinia have their leaves, typically bilobed
The other doubt *Michelia champaca* remains. ... the leaves in your photo seem to be different from *M. champaca*. Looking at *DoddaSampige-Bottom.jpg *reminded me of grand old trees of * Plumeria*, but other photos of the same tree do not look like it. Plus, cannot imagine *Plumeria* to have come into India such long ago. Comments are sure to follow. Regards. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:42 PM, raghu ananth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ATREE organization, Bangalore in one of their recent books estimates this > mammoth champa tree from Biligiri hills, Karnataka to be around 2700 years. > Earlier, > when we had asked the Soliga tribal people on the age of the tree, they > replied " This tree should be around 1000 to1500 years". > > > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2 > > Regards > Raghu > > > Here are extracts from Wikipedia link: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelia_champaca<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelia_champaca&usg=AFQjCNEmxLOJ-5kGdVTcJIM5PU0ogJQDMQ> > > > *Michelia champaca* is an evergreen tree, native to South > Asia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia&usg=AFQjCNHSlL6zcPDTcIsIj5qvu8s5PEHFZg>>and > Southeast > Asia > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia&usg=AFQjCNF_fi7-oHgLkCWcuXvuLWxK6d0oqQ>>. > It is best known and > cultivated for its strongly fragrant yellow or white flowers. It is also > cultivated for timber. Common names include champaka, champak or champac, > champa, sampige and shamba. > > The flowers are used in Southeast Asia for several purposes. They are > floated in bowls of water to scent the room, as a fragrant decoration for > bridal beds, and for garlands and hair ointments. > > On 4/27/08, J.M. Garg > <jmga...<http://groups.google.co.in/groups/unlock?_done=/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2&msg=687c97db851085f9> > @gmail.com> wrote: > > > <http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2?hide_quotes=no#msg_687c97db851085f9> > - Show quoted text - > > <http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2?hide_quotes=no#msg_687c97db851085f9> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > Hi, Raghu ji, > Bauhinia racemosa is ruled out as its leaves are different. It's leaves > look > like *Michelia champaca*- *Golden/ Yellow/ Orange/ Fragrant Champa*. > That's > its sc. name as per the link: > http://www.careindia.in/JLR/K.Gudi.html<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.careindia.in/JLR/K.Gudi.html&usg=AFQjCNEowdN6USY1gZma3AquPcmaZf635A>. > It is > also said to flower as per the link: > http://www.raahi.com/index.php?option=com_destinationfinder&Itemid=88...<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.raahi.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_destinationfinder%26Itemid%3D88889026%26task%3Dshow%26d%3D229%26topic%3Dto_see_and_do&usg=AFQjCNG4P-EkNMSS0A9Yij58V_Tgp-ptkw> > > > On 4/25/08, raghu ananth > <raghu_...<http://groups.google.co.in/groups/unlock?_done=/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2&msg=a210b8e4f848556d> > @yahoo.com> wrote: > > > <http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2?hide_quotes=no#msg_a210b8e4f848556d> > - Show quoted text - > > <http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2?hide_quotes=no#msg_a210b8e4f848556d> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > > > > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/925be6d7285d45f2 > > > *Great information....* > *is it possible to get the precise circumference of the tree...* > * > N.Shiva Kumar > House No. 10 - A, Block C - 72 > Niligiri Apartments, Sector - 34 > NOIDA - 201 301(National Capital Region)* > * > * > * > * > > ‘Tis indeed a worthy tree for posterity. Thank you for the visuals. > > > > Cheers, > > Kiran Srivastava > > Mumbai > > [email protected] > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > *From:* raghu ananth <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Fri, 25 April, 2008 9:59:43 PM > *Subject:* [Indiantreepix] Mammoth champa tree or the Dodda Sampige Mara > (1000 years old) > > Big Champa Tree > ------------------------- > > (Of the many champak tree's in our residential layout in Bangalore, > somehow the tree just in front of our house is in full bloom. The milk > distributing boy, joggers of the early morning and the summer holidaying > small boys and girls assemble very early in the morning to collect some > flowers from our tree climbing expert - the newspaper wallah. Religiously > he takes everyday these flowers to his factory and the temple with great > devotion.. Sometimes he counts more than 300 of them and says it will flower > for another 10 days. > > Then we remembered a particular age-old tree we had seen 5 years back- The > 1000 year old Dodda Sampige tree (Big Champa tree) in Biligiri forest hills > ! And over the next week end we were off to see it - once again ) > > In the thick of the Biligiri Hill ranges, which is home to the Soliga > tribals, there stands a mammoth champa tree or the Dodda Sampige Mara, > reported to be around 1000-1500 years old. The sheer size of the tree trunk > leaves one wonderstruck. Two of the trunks have fallen between our last > visit and now and they lay near by. We have been seeing the champa tree > flowering now in and around Bangalore and Mysore. But this champa tree, did > not bear any flowers. A merry stream with very sweat and cool water runs by > close to this tree and the total silence that can be experienced here makes > it a singularly beautiful experience for nature lovers. (The Soligas believe > that on encountering wild animals like the tiger for instance, they need > just pray to this tree and the tiger slinks away. ) > We were accompanied by two soliga boys (Keta and Raju) who had a wealth > of information on the forest tree species -flora,fauna, its smell, taste, > use in food & medicine and even seasonal changes. > The Dodda Sampige Mara and the sorrounding attracts birds of all kinds, for > we saw the Paradise fly catcher, Emerald dove, whistling thrush, Citrine wag > tail and some of the raptors fishing eagle, Crested hawk and serpant eagle > to name a few. The cicada flying insects are found all over the tree and the > humming sound that they make reminds us of a well synchronised orchestra. > > Alltogether it was an ardous trek of 20 kms, that too in this scorching > summer, was worth every bit of it. > > Thanks > Raghu > Apr 20, 2008 > > Requesting the equivalent in English, > Michelia champaca (Fam: Magnoliaceae) > or > Bauhinia racemosa > > ------------------------------ > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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