Thanks a lot Ashutosh
I am waiting for differences between I. edgeworthii and I. scabrida, so
that we could distribute our images under former. I have interesting
variations from Western Himalayas, but these could be scrutinised only
after we know the differences according to new interpretation.




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:50 AM Ashutosh Sharma <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Respected Gurcharan Singh sir,
>
> I have gone through this book, it also follows the paper of Dr. Shinobu
> Akiyama mam, the yellower species present on our site previously under name
> Impatiens scabrida is treated as Impatiens tricornis in that book too
> moreover there is no details of Impatiens edgeworthii in that book as I.
> edgeworthii is not found in Eastern Himalayas it is only distributed upto
> Nepal...
>
> Best regards
> Ashutosh Sharma
>
> On Fri 21 Feb, 2020, 7:56 AM Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It would be interesting to know the treatment of three species I.
>> edgeworthii, I. scabrida and I. tricornis in recent revision of Impatiens
>> from Eastern Himalayas, especially differentiating characters:
>> Balsams of Eastern Himalaya ,
>>
>>    - Rajib Gogoi
>>    
>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rajib_Gogoi3?_sg%5B0%5D=6IbeFfRe1N3wAqTbvImKFE6Gz5f9AK9c9c75HyIIMqITxUxXIzd6BUsFpZOrTM9cX1Kenho.l6ZA8qR783fAw7KGGO55j3gyb1D91SKNjY8w_b5sg7i-RYxPxNSlMCHC-qKrYQzOCLf0q7O0CCiNM3Ya5fosUQ&_sg%5B1%5D=bVheBjG0s3BzglDLFhlD3fo8eJdDJtbS59YL9h7N2suIeBWzkH-s1bFncAaaYQlec4aNCp0.1LrawhzsMnEUjQ6aTRJblPb_oOKMLHqBL1U4vORloZRB1Kmp6siRQRi5UG67JYEFMXrKX-xXD4XW75GT_BSORQ>
>>    ,
>>    - Souravjyoti Borah,
>>    - Sudhansu Sekhar Dash,
>>    - Paramjit Singh, March 2019, Botanical Survey of India, any one
>>    having access to the book may please check.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Mob: 9810359089
>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 8:27 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Wojciech ji
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J. M. Garg
>>>
>>> On Thu 20 Feb, 2020, 12:27 AM 'Wojciech Adamowski' via efloraofindia, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji and other efi users,
>>>> I am unable to produce real key to distinguish about 40 species of
>>>> balsams known from Western Himalaya. However, you can find some help in my
>>>> project, called Balsaminaceae Information Center on ResearchGate portal.
>>>> I would like to push your attention to two existing files:
>>>> Impatiens_portraits_300 with links to pictures of about 300 of Impatiens
>>>> taxa and Impatiens of Nepal.
>>>> These materials should be visible and accessible also for people only
>>>> visiting ResearchGate.
>>>> I am very busy now with other work, but I hope to add file with some
>>>> information on Western Himalayan Impatiens before start of field season.
>>>> Best regards             Wojciech Adamowski
>>>>
>>>> W środa, 19 lutego 2020, 11:49:47 CET, Gurcharan Singh <
>>>> [email protected]> napisał(-a):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Garg ji
>>>> I have several populations of I. edgeworthii, I will upload variations,
>>>> but before that need to know key differences between I. edgeworthii and I.
>>>> scabrida according to new interpretation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:38 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For  'Impatiens-edgeworthiiChakrata Tiger fall
>>>> area-DSC01532-Chakrata-1'
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 15:52, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry not for this plant.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 15:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Singh ji,
>>>> Pl. share high resolution images of this plant.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 15:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the wonderful discussions.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 14:26, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks dear Wojceich Adamowski
>>>> I would be very happy if we have three species in our area instead of
>>>> two, as Shinobu Akiyama and Hideaki Ohba paper which started all this
>>>> report I. scabrida only from type locality Nepal. As I have written in all
>>>> my posts we need to know key differences between all three species, or at
>>>> least between I. edgeworthii and I. scabrida according to new
>>>> interpretation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 2:14 PM Wojciech Adamowski <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Plant named I. edgeworthii by Gurcharan Singh ji look very promising
>>>> for being true I. scabrida. Further studies of cytology and other features
>>>> are needed to confirm its status.
>>>> Thanks Ashutosh for alerting me :-).
>>>> Best regards             Wojciech Adamowski
>>>> W niedziela, 16 lutego 2020, 10:09:16 CET, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>> napisał(-a):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Impatiens tricornis as per another thread by Ashutosh ji at Renaming
>>>> Impatiens scabrida DC. page to Impatiens tricornis Lindl.
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/BVnbQFpf2Lo>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: *Gurcharan Singh* <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 at 09:01
>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:148375] Balsaminaceae, Geraniaceae and
>>>> Oxalidaceae week: Balsaminaceae-Impatiens scabrida from Manali and
>>>> Chakrata-GS-12
>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Impatiens scabrida* DC., Prodr. 1:687. 1824.
>>>> Syn: *Impatiens* *cristata* Wall.; *I. calycina* Wall.; *I.
>>>> hamiltoniana* D. Don
>>>>         *I. praetermissa* Hook.f.;* I. tricornis* Lindl.
>>>>
>>>> Local names: rindliya, tilura
>>>>
>>>> Branched annual herb often reaching up to 1 m tall, pubescent or
>>>> subglabrous towards base, often purple; leaves alternate, elliptic to
>>>> oblong-ovate, 6-15 cm long, sessile or short petiolate, petiole with two
>>>> sessile glands at base, leaf margin sharply serrate, teeth gland-tipped,
>>>> apex acuminate; flowers golden yellow, spotted with purple or brown, 3-4 cm
>>>> long excluding spur, in 1-3 flowered clusters on up to 7 cm long axillary
>>>> peduncles; pedicel with usually 2 lanceolate persistent 3-4 mm long
>>>> bracteoles; 2 lateral sepals ovate-rounded, 5-6 mm long, mucronate; lower
>>>> sepal broadly funnel-shaped, abruptly narrowed into incurved spur 10-12 mm
>>>> long; upper petal broadly circular 12-15 mm long, 16-18 mm broad, with
>>>> horn-like green outgrowth on back, bilobed at tip; lateral united petals
>>>> without claws, bilobed, basal lobes rounded, distal lobes with inflexed
>>>> auricle; capsule erect,  linear, 25-40 mm long, ribbed hairy.
>>>>
>>>> Photographed from Manali and Chakrata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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