Sir, I have some clicks of this species. I'll check and report back. Regards
On Sun, 23 Feb, 2020, 7:47 AM Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks a lot Wojciech Adamowski > I reproduce again the couplet 117 on page 106 of BSI Flora of India > 117a Basal lobe of wings produced upwards anteriorly into decurved > lobule.........I. edgeworthii > b. Basal lobe of wings not produced upwards anteriorly into > decurved lobule ......next 48 species > > And description of I. edgeworthii on page 144 "Wings with a globular > dorsal auricle and a lobular structure towards sinus; basal lobes obovate, > 6 x 5 mm; distal lobes oblong with ligulate apex, lobular structure oblong > , ca 6 x 2 mm " > Description of I. exilis which keys out along with rest 47 species "Wings > 1-1.5 cm long; basal lobes ovate-triangular, 6-7 x 3-4 mm; distal lobes > elliptic-obovate, acutely pointed at apex, 7-10 x 5-7 mm; dorsal auricle > short, hooked" > > You are best qualified to interpret it > > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:42 PM Wojciech Adamowski < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan ji, >> what are you calling lobule? >> I see distinct structure in place where upper lateral petal is connected >> with lower lateral petal. >> If yes, this is some misinterpretation - this structure is auricle - see >> Fig. 1 in Ruchisansakun S., Suksathan P., van der Niet T., Smets E.F., >> Saw-Lwin, Janssens S.B. 2018. Balsaminaceae of Myanmar. Blumea 63, 2018: >> 199–267. https://doi.org/10.3767/blumea.2018.63.03.01 >> Best regards Wojciech >> >> W sobota, 22 lutego 2020, 07:24:37 CET, Gurcharan Singh < >> [email protected]> napisał(-a): >> >> >> >> Thanks dear Ashutosh Sharma ji and Wojciech Adamowski ji. I am also >> bringing into loop Nidhan ji, Balkar ji and Anil Thakur ji who have good >> knowledge about the flora of the region. >> Sorry but I won't stop at that. The main reason why wrote three main >> posts "Sorting our Impatiens edgeworthii/scabrida/tricornis" was the most >> important key character in BSI Flora of India, Vol 4 page 106 "basal lobe >> of wings produced upwards anteriorly into decurved lobule" which separates >> I. edgeworthii from at least 50 next species in the key including I. >> scabrida (I. tricornis not established then 1997, only emrged in 2016). >> These lobules are very clearly seen in my images already on Flowers of >> India, our database and fresh post yesterday. These are clearly absent in >> two species I. scabrida and I. tricornis I uploaded yesterday. I must say >> these lobules are very clearly seen in population uploaded by me from >> Nohradhar, and we can't simply dismiss this as variation of tricornis. I >> don't say it is I. edgeworthii, but can safely say that it keys out along >> with I. edgeworthii (in key of BSI Flora of India). Who knows it may turn >> out to be a new species, which our active researches can work on. >> A fresh trip to Nohradhar in June may give us chance to locate and study >> this population in detail. >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:21 PM Wojciech Adamowski < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I agree with Ashutosh Sharma >> Wojciech >> W piątek, 21 lutego 2020, 15:54:45 CET, Ashutosh Sharma < >> [email protected]> napisał(-a): >> >> >> Respected Gurcharan Singh sir, >> >> This is surely from Impatiens scabrida complex and will say Impatiens >> tricornis for now. >> >> See the plant is much hairy with pubescent lateral sepals also upper lobe >> of lateral united petal is much wider and there is no streaked red color in >> throat only rusty spots are present. >> >> As this plant is photographed much earlier flowering in May at higher >> altitude near 2000metres so this is likely some variation because it is >> flowering much before monsoon rains and in cooler temperatures so plant >> growth also remain stunted. I have seen such variations in some other >> Himalayan Balsams also... >> >> Best regards >> Ashutosh Sharma >> >> On Fri 21 Feb, 2020, 6:29 PM Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This is really interesting flower colour, lower sepal tube and hairiness >> suggesting I. tricornis but two prominent lobules suggest I. edgeworthii, >> the plant barely few cm tall is much more hispid than all my populations, >> Near Nohradhar, Himachal Pradesh, alt 2000 m, May 25, 2015. >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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