Thanks, Ashwini ji, for the superb presentation. For your original images, I will go for *V. serpyllifolia* *ssp.* *humifusa* (Dickson) Syme only, as per keys.
On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 07:05, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Mr. Garg. Perhaps we have only one ssp. and there is good > variation in plants growing at different elevations in the same area. Or > perhaps a further study is required to establish the differences. I am > posting a plant here for your reference. > > While the plant I posted earlier is from above 2800m, the other included > here is from 1800m. The flowers of the plant at the lower elevations are > significantly smaller and whiter. The leaves too are smaller and smoother > with no hint of hairiness. I am including them for your reference. > > *Veronica serpyllifolia* ssp. *serpyllifolia* > 1800m approx. > Near Dal Lake, Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh > 11-29 April 2020 > > In the photo showing a ruler, each division is 0.5mm. > > Thanks and regards, > Ashwini > > > On 01-May-2020, at 1:49 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > But what is worrying me is that Catalogue of Life > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/41199c2454689f68ac6ff61d25a4cd10> > does not give its distribution in India. > Although Conspectus of the genus Veronica Linnaeus (Plantaginaceae) in > India <http://www.ehsst.org/PL00801-009.pdf> by Priyanka Agnihotri, Veena > Dixit and Tariq Husain - Pleione 8(1): 9 - 16. 2014, gives its distribution > in Uttarakhand only as below: > *V. serpyllifolia* Linnaeus, subsp. *serpyllifolia* 2400 – 4000 May - > August- *J&K, UK, HP, WB- *Afghanistan, Europe, Australia, China, Japan, > Africa, N. & S. America > *V. serpyllifolia* subsp. *humifusa* (Dickson ex Withering) Vahl 2100 – > 4000 May – August- *UK-* Europe, Australia, N. & S. America, China, > Japan, Russia > > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 16:36, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On checking with keys from both the sources lead me to *V. serpyllifolia* >> *ssp.* *humifusa* (Dickson) Syme >> >> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 19:15, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much Mr. Garg. I had seen the Go Botany keys but was >>> wondering ion a member had first hand experience of the subspecies. >>> >>> I will file the other ssp. Soon. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> Ashwini >>> >>> >>> On 22-Apr-2020, at 9:34 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Ashwini ji, >>> I got the keys from Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas >>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=Veronica+serpyllifolia+subsp.+serpyllifolia+%2B+V.+serpyllifolia+subsp.+humifusa+%2B+keys&source=bl&ots=tpxN2LyABc&sig=ACfU3U0kM1RuT3lNOxxMnBWxJAusiibVuQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjf_MqQkvvoAhUOU30KHUA7BDAQ6AEwEHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Veronica%20serpyllifolia%20subsp.%20serpyllifolia%20%2B%20V.%20serpyllifolia%20subsp.%20humifusa%20%2B%20keys&f=false> >>> By Francis & Pennell. >>> >>> I also got the keys as below from Go Botany >>> <https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/veronica/serpyllifolia/>: >>> *1a. * Corolla blue, 5–8 (–10) mm wide; pubescence of pedicels, in >>> part, of viscid or glandular hairs; filaments 2–4 mm long; racemes with >>> 8–15 flowers; larger capsules 4–6 mm wide … *17a.* *V. serpyllifolia* >>> *ssp.* *humifusa* (Dickson) Syme >>> >>> *1b. * Corolla pale blue with blue lines, 2–4 (–6) mm wide; pedicels >>> puberulent with eglandular hairs; filaments 1–2.5 mm long; racemes with >>> (12–) 20–40 flowers; capsules 3–4 mm wide … *17b.* *V. serpyllifolia* >>> *ssp.* *serpyllifolia* >>> Pl. check. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 17:15, mcleodwild <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Could this plant shared by me in 2017 be *V. serpyllifolia ssp. >>>> humifusa*? >>>> >>>> I am asking because I recently found a smaller and whiter version of >>>> this species at 1800m which I suspect to be ssp. *serpyllifolia*. >>>> Please advise. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Ashwini >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, 8 May 2017 16:28:36 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Superb images, Ashwini ji >>>>> >>>>> On 6 May 2017 7:31 p.m., "Ashwini Bhatia" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This one was just above Triund. I think this is *V. serpyllifolia*. >>>>>> Please advise. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Veronica serpyllifolia* >>>>>> Triund >>>>>> 2850m approx. >>>>>> 03-04 May 2017 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Ashwini >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d0c93f7a-e149-4893-bde7-3aeee8d10172%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d0c93f7a-e149-4893-bde7-3aeee8d10172%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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