Canopy architecture is an important character if the plants are growing undisturbed.
Regards On 5/19/20, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5/19/20, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <[email protected]> wrote: >> It is your hard work, Garg ji. You are curating each and every species >> and devoting lots of time researching all these. >> We are contributing only rarely, whenever getting time. >> I believe, that there should be nothing inconclusive. So, clicked more >> photographs today. >> Fruit size and pericarp thickness is quite different in these two >> species. More thickness makes P. fortunei fruits woody. >> >> >> Regards >> >> On 5/19/20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thanks, Anil ji, for the superb images as well as all the hard work. >>> We are all doing this research work day in and day out (and publishing >>> on >>> our site), except for publication in research magazines. >>> >>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 16:37, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/19/20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Thanks, Anil ji, for the detailed and through analysis. >>>> > In the first image, I also see ripe ovate fruits. >>>> > I am convinced. >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 16:04, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Garg ji, I have tried to compared my plant with the description >>>> >> given >>>> >> in the Flora of China. Kindly find attached a copy of comparision >>>> >> for >>>> >> further reference. Based on these evidences, it appears that my >>>> >> plant >>>> >> is Paulownia tomentosa only. I had clicked some plants in the campus >>>> >> of Dr. Y.S. Parmar University of Horticulture and Forestry at Solan >>>> >> a >>>> >> few years back, which I was presuming as P. fortunei. I'll see them >>>> >> again in new lighjt. Some more photographs are attached. The number >>>> >> of >>>> >> flowers per cymes are clearly visible in one of the photographs. >>>> >> Measurements of leaves and old fruits (they remain on plants for >>>> >> longer periods) are taken today only. Leaf size can still increase >>>> >> as >>>> >> they start appearing only in the month of April. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 5/19/20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> > On thoroughly checking on net and all our posts, I think >>>> >> > *Paulownia >>>> >> > tomentosa *and *Paulownia fortunei *quite confusing. I could not >>>> >> > find >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > difference between the two on net anywhere except in Flora of >>>> >> > China. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Keys in Flora of China >>>> >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177> >>>> are >>>> >> as >>>> >> > below: >>>> >> > 4 (1) >>>> >> > < >>>> >> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-1> >>>> >> > *Capsule >>>> >> > oblong to oblong-ellipsoid, 6-10 cm*; pericarp woody, 3-6 mm; >>>> >> > inflorescences subcylindric; corolla ventral plaits inconspicuous; >>>> >> > calyx >>>> >> > 2-2.5 cm 4 Paulownia fortunei >>>> >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020797 >>>> > >>>> >> > + *Capsule ovoid, ovoid-ellipsoid, or ellipsoid, 3-5.5 cm*; >>>> >> > pericarp >>>> >> > not >>>> >> > woody, to 3 mm; inflorescences pyramidal or narrowly conical; >>>> >> > corolla >>>> >> > ventral plaits conspicuous; calyx to 2 cm. (5) >>>> >> > < >>>> >> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-5> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > 5 (4) >>>> >> > < >>>> >> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-4> >>>> >> > Capsule >>>> >> > viscid-glandular hairy; calyx lobes as long as or longer than >>>> >> > tube, >>>> not >>>> >> > glabrescent 1 Paulownia tomentosa >>>> >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020800 >>>> > >>>> >> > + Capsule pubescent when young; calyx lobes shorter than tube, >>>> >> > partly >>>> >> > glabrescent. (6) >>>> >> > < >>>> >> >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-6> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Pl see the illustration of both as below: >>>> >> > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 >>>> >> > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > *From flowers it is very difficult to arriva eat the species. Also >>>> >> > aspect >>>> >> > of calyx is also confusing. I think most important character to >>>> >> > separate >>>> >> > the two is the fruit*. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > *From fruit shape, I think it should be **Paulownia fortunei *as >>>> >> > in >>>> >> > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 >>>> >> > https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/paulownia-fortunei/ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Fruit shape of *Paulownia tomentosa *is different as per >>>> >> > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a888 >>>> >> > https://landscapeplants.oregonstate.edu/plants/paulownia-tomentosa >>>> >> > https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=2426 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> >> > From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >>>> >> > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 21:01 >>>> >> > Subject: [efloraofindia:306297] Re: Paulownia tomentosa >>>> >> > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Posting some more photographs of this highly beautiful ornamental >>>> tree. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Regards >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Monday, 15 December 2014 22:29:04 UTC+5:30, Anil Thakur wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Respected Members, >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> It is a beautiful deciduous tree which flowers in March/April. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Botanical name: Paulownia tomentosa >>>> >> >> Common names: Empress tree, Princess tree, Foxglove tree >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Regards, >>>> >> >> -- >>>> >> >> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>>> >> >> Associate Professor (Botany) >>>> >> >> Govt. P.G. 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You can also use them for free >>> as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >> >> >> -- >> With best Regards, >> >> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >> > > > -- > With best Regards, > > Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > -- With best Regards, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEWs%3DZ%3DCvpykD1A4-1O74Dx2vEf%2BqyUt2p5wd9MfdS8rHEoNfQ%40mail.gmail.com.
