-- With regards, J. M. Garg ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> Date: Thu 4 Jun, 2020, 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [itpmods:13922] Fwd: Beautiful world of herbarium specimens To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com>
Yes I agree, both GBIF and POWO has improved since past few years and hence more informations are available at both websites. As such we do not need to the what taxonomy BSI follows, as most of the times either they follow POWO or they have very often their own view point to which no one agrees. So as long as you follow POWO or GBIF, you will the updated taxonomy. Recently I have had no problems for image of any specimen I needed from BSI. I just sent them an email and they responded positively. Which means, they did scan most of their specimens or it must be an ongoing process, however, they have not uploaded these images on any online platform or GBIF. Thanks and regards Pankaj On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 14:34, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Pankaj ji. > I think there is some confusion in your words. > May I request you to pl. recheck an clarify. > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 11:29, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes I agree both GBIF and POWO has improved since past few years and ore >> informations are available at one point. As such we no need to know the BSI >> point of view because most of the times either they follow POWO or they >> have very often their own view point to which no one agrees. >> Recently I have had no problems for any specimen image I needed from BSI. >> I just sent them an email and they responded positively. >> Thanks and regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 13:46, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But what is missing sadly is BSI Flora of India. Once they put most of >>> the volumes which were finalised by them for some time. And it was very >>> useful to understand BSI point of view. Bur sadly it has gone away within >>> no time. >>> >>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 10:35, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Very true, almost all information is available online to clear any >>>> doubts. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:43 AM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes Mr. Garg ! I agree. We can get help sometimes from POWO to cross >>>>> check and verify our sp. with herbarium! >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 9:50 am, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 09:33 >>>>>> Subject: Beautiful world of herbarium specimens >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>> Earlier we have problems in finding images or specimens on net on >>>>>> searching for many species, particularly rare ones. >>>>>> If we wanted to check if the posted plant may be a particular >>>>>> species, we were stuck with it, on not finding any thing substantial on >>>>>> it >>>>>> on net. >>>>>> But all this changed a few years back with GBIF >>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/en/>. All those problems we faced, >>>>>> disappeared. >>>>>> Now we can easily search all the species with a few clicks and match >>>>>> our posted plants with these. It is also much more reliable as images on >>>>>> net may be misidentified at many sites, causing confusion. >>>>>> Many a times I have checked tens of species at a time, in the absence >>>>>> of keys on net, to arrive at tentative id and than confirming with >>>>>> detailed >>>>>> description. >>>>>> Thanks to GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/en/>, it is now not so >>>>>> difficult to get the identification now, in so many cases. We have to >>>>>> just >>>>>> search at this link. When ever I get stuck, I go to GBIF to sort it out. >>>>>> Most of the accepted names and synonyms in GBIF, are based on >>>>>> Catalogue of Life. It is also wonderful because it shows specimens of >>>>>> many >>>>>> synonyms separately on going to gallary, in case somebody wants to see >>>>>> specimen of a particular synonym e.g. at this link >>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7685583>, we see >>>>>> specimens of *Lindenbergia muraria* *and Lindenbergia ruderalis *under >>>>>> *Lindenbergia muraria *page. >>>>>> Now a days, images are also added from iNaturalist >>>>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/>. And these are shown at the starting, >>>>>> showing the growing importance of images over herbarium specimens. But >>>>>> one >>>>>> has to be careful, as many of images may not be correct. >>>>>> *We are slowly and slowly waking up to the beautiful world of >>>>>> herbarium specimens.* >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> more than 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> more than 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBEMWB24U-diQ4fkOX71OXSZs105ufyqBcgOXa99SdeJg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBEMWB24U-diQ4fkOX71OXSZs105ufyqBcgOXa99SdeJg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytTM4FoxGM5nxHEDBGnb0V9TCMo8p_83fLZUs30YovYHnA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytTM4FoxGM5nxHEDBGnb0V9TCMo8p_83fLZUs30YovYHnA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpVG%3D%3DarD2ON-EwJ8aPRKEzHDZW5E58_HFgkTX7Xt8qvUA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpVG%3D%3DarD2ON-EwJ8aPRKEzHDZW5E58_HFgkTX7Xt8qvUA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFD5abaWErqoqTC1hZGki-f46VZ42JACH0qTDBGH4xJmPg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFD5abaWErqoqTC1hZGki-f46VZ42JACH0qTDBGH4xJmPg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> ****************************************************** >> **************************************************************** >> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >> >> *Office*: >> >> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >> >> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ITPmods" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABpo8%3D21jg%2B3RjPem6eRbz8Pn3zjJAuiRvLJu7FR-CuS-F5VGQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABpo8%3D21jg%2B3RjPem6eRbz8Pn3zjJAuiRvLJu7FR-CuS-F5VGQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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