This ID is still pending ! Opinion from members please! Thank you. Saroj Kasaju
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:55 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Ashutosh Ji, > > Some help for ID ? > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > Forwarded Conversation > Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted name) ?? > ------------------------ > > From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < > [email protected]> > > > Dear Members, > > Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal > Altitude: 9000 ft. > Date: 26 July 2014 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > ---------- > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM > To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Nice images, Saroj ji. > > > ---------- > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju < > [email protected]> > > > Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. > > On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >> found in Kashmir. >> >> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >> >> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >> > > > ---------- > From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM > To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Cc: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>, efloraofindia < > [email protected]> > > > Enclosing link if it could help to ID. > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > ---------- > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, <[email protected] > > > > > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you > photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri > found in Kashmir. > I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as > C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. > Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. > - Chadwell ji > > Enclosing link if it could help to ID. > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 > Thank you. > Saroj Kasaju > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > ---------- > From: C CHADWELL <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM > To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Thanks for the link to the current listing of Cirsium species recorded > from Nepal but ALL these were > within 'An Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal' Vol 3 (1982) > which covered this genus. > > Kitamura & Gould who wrote the account of Asteraceae (then Compositae) > stated for C.falconeri in > Nepal that the taxon as recognised is a very variable species - they > outlined the differences between > 'Kashmir' plants and 'Eastern Himalaya' ones. They concluded that the > amount of variation suggests > that several species may be involved and further study is required. > > I am in agreement with this. It does not appear that this study has taken > place in the intervening period. > > I should be in a position to comment further about the images posted under > the name C.falconeri on eFI > but a MAJOR study is required overall - there are limits to what I can do. > > For the time-being, my INITIAL impressions were that SOME of the images > posted not only did not match > the Kashmir form of C.falconeri but were not the 'Eastern Himalayan Form' > either (whatever taxa are decided > upon when a thorough revision has taken place) and may well belong either > to other Cirsium species or > related genera. > > I cannot meaningful do any MORE with the images you posted at this stage. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *Cc:* C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 January 2017, 10:16 > *Subject:* [efloraofindia:261049] Re: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. > (provisionally accepted name) ?? > > Enclosing link if it could help to ID. > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/RruBwOw_KTc/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytTZ5zJfPWzaHYum-xo%2BGYdex9aVNUgMKfZ352BfPyEC%3DA%40mail.gmail.com.
