Thanks Garg ji and Swamy ji The fact that both are called and used as Lasura in India has created lot of confusion on the internet, even Wikipedia, even Flowers of India. We have to proceed carefully. I think this looks to be typical C. dichotoma:
http://tropical.theferns.info/image.php?id=Cordia+dichotoma Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Mob: 9810359089 https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 8:59 AM M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear sir, > Thank you very much for your clarification, which is very convincing.. > Very useful . > Best regards, > Dr.Mahadeswara swamy > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:28 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> We can't just pick up accepted name and synonym without authority name. >> No doubt Cordia myxa L. and Cordia dichotoma G. Forst are distinct species >> according to Kew Database (the most authentic at present), Catalogue of >> Life and World Flora Online. >> As understood now both occur in India, C. myxa differentiated by >> broader leaves (6-12 cm long, 4-8 cm broad), rounded to subcordate at base, >> drupe usually 20 mm long. C. dichotoma, on the other hand has smaller and >> narrower leaves (5-8 cm long, less than 3 cm broad, with cuneate base, >> fruit less than 15 mm. >> You may check up details, but shape of leaves suggests C. myxa. >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:34 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Mahadeswara ji. >>> I think Singh ji is correct in the matter. >>> POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:114098-1#synonyms> >>> gives *Cordia dichotoma *G. Forster as the accepted name as is Catalogue >>> of Life >>> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ec397dadecb160834a6fe220e084dcae> >>> also. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: M Swamy <[email protected]> >>> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 17:42 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:354345] MS/July/2021/3 - ID of the Cordia dpecies >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Dear members, >>> I am attaching herewith a photo (combo) received from a friend in >>> Chennai. For me it looks like *Cordia myxa * looking at the leaves and >>> the size of the tree. However on checking the efloraofindia on this >>> species it is merged with the *C.dichotoma.* >>> efi page on Cordia dichotoma >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/b/boraginaceae/cordia/cordia-dichotoma> >>> . Extract submitted for ready reference : >>> As per Singh ji: >>> >>> >>> >>> *"Cordia myxa L., and Cordia dichotoma Forst as such are distinct >>> species The problem arose that the name C. myxa was also used for >>> plants from India, which is same as C. obliqua Willd., a name adopted in >>> Flora of British India. This plant is now correctly known C. >>> dichotoma Forst.The plant should be cited as:Cordia dichotoma Forst. >>> syn: Cordia obliqua Willd.; C. myxa auct. (non L.); C. indica Lam.; >>> C. latifolia Roxb. Cordia myxa L. is a distinct plant now understood to >>> be confined to Asia minor and Egypt "* >>> >>> * According to Pradip Krishen's new book 'Jungle Trees of Central >>> India' [which is fairly well researched and presented] : * >>> *- C.myxa is the accepted name and C.dichotoma is a synonym* >>> >>> *My queries :* >>> *(1) Which is the correct form of accepted name and which is the >>> synonym ?* >>> *(2) Suggest the correct citation for the picture I have posted.* >>> >>> *Please clarify .* >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BNJD3PBP1mrJZUiii3u%2BXesusKGyk2X8WvuMvRLUaZW%2BYdb0w%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BNJD3PBP1mrJZUiii3u%2BXesusKGyk2X8WvuMvRLUaZW%2BYdb0w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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